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Attributes | |
ACN | 322429 |
Time | |
Date | 199511 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cew |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Cessna 210 Centurion / Turbo Centurion 210C, 210D |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | descent other other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Jet/Long Ranger |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : other |
Flight Phase | landing : missed approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 2000 flight time type : 750 |
ASRS Report | 322429 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I believe the problem arose due to heavy military helicopter training activity at the crestview, bob sikes airport. The airport has a single runway 17/35 with VOR-a, NDB runway 17, and localizer runway 17 approachs. The navy TH57 was on a map from runway 17, however the 'active' runway was runway 35 due to favorable winds. I had just called crestview radio (FSS) for an advisory coming in from about 10 mi east. They advised runway 35 in use, however, I wasn't advised of the outbound to the east, a TH57 on a map. I only knew about it from monitoring the CTAF for a few mins before initial call up. The TH57 was already handed off to eglin approach when the conflict arose. So we have a situation: a military helicopter doing instrument training and an inbound fixed wing, both on different frequencys. I believe the helicopter was at 2000 ft MSL when I passed below on my descent for the traffic pattern of 1200 ft MSL. The helicopter was still fairly close to the airport. So I think they should have been monitoring CTAF on #2. Another problem came when I heard the helicopter announce on CTAF he was executing the map and crestview radio advised him to contact eglin approach. The pilot didn't mention to others inbound what those instructions were, that is 'eastbound to 2000 ft,' or something like that. The cew VORTAC is to the west so that was where I assumed he was going. Another contributing factor was the fact I was going due west into the late afternoon sun for a crosswind entry to the pattern for runway 35.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC OCCURRED BTWN A C210 AND A TH57 AT A NON TWR ARPT. THE INBOUND C210 PLT HEARD THE OUTBOUND MIL HELI ANNOUNCE THE MAP PRIOR TO THE CONFLICT.
Narrative: I BELIEVE THE PROB AROSE DUE TO HVY MIL HELI TRAINING ACTIVITY AT THE CRESTVIEW, BOB SIKES ARPT. THE ARPT HAS A SINGLE RWY 17/35 WITH VOR-A, NDB RWY 17, AND LOC RWY 17 APCHS. THE NAVY TH57 WAS ON A MAP FROM RWY 17, HOWEVER THE 'ACTIVE' RWY WAS RWY 35 DUE TO FAVORABLE WINDS. I HAD JUST CALLED CRESTVIEW RADIO (FSS) FOR AN ADVISORY COMING IN FROM ABOUT 10 MI E. THEY ADVISED RWY 35 IN USE, HOWEVER, I WASN'T ADVISED OF THE OUTBOUND TO THE E, A TH57 ON A MAP. I ONLY KNEW ABOUT IT FROM MONITORING THE CTAF FOR A FEW MINS BEFORE INITIAL CALL UP. THE TH57 WAS ALREADY HANDED OFF TO EGLIN APCH WHEN THE CONFLICT AROSE. SO WE HAVE A SIT: A MIL HELI DOING INST TRAINING AND AN INBOUND FIXED WING, BOTH ON DIFFERENT FREQS. I BELIEVE THE HELI WAS AT 2000 FT MSL WHEN I PASSED BELOW ON MY DSCNT FOR THE TFC PATTERN OF 1200 FT MSL. THE HELI WAS STILL FAIRLY CLOSE TO THE ARPT. SO I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN MONITORING CTAF ON #2. ANOTHER PROB CAME WHEN I HEARD THE HELI ANNOUNCE ON CTAF HE WAS EXECUTING THE MAP AND CRESTVIEW RADIO ADVISED HIM TO CONTACT EGLIN APCH. THE PLT DIDN'T MENTION TO OTHERS INBOUND WHAT THOSE INSTRUCTIONS WERE, THAT IS 'EBOUND TO 2000 FT,' OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THE CEW VORTAC IS TO THE W SO THAT WAS WHERE I ASSUMED HE WAS GOING. ANOTHER CONTRIBUTING FACTOR WAS THE FACT I WAS GOING DUE W INTO THE LATE AFTERNOON SUN FOR A XWIND ENTRY TO THE PATTERN FOR RWY 35.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.