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Attributes | |
ACN | 322762 |
Time | |
Date | 199512 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : gdm airport : bos |
State Reference | MA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 20000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zbw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : zbw |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 322762 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
ATC gave us a restr to cross bronc intersection at 11000 ft. We had been previously requested to go as fast as possible for following traffic. Tailwind was approximately 135 KTS, ground speed 625 KTS. Flight attendants were in cockpit reporting galley and cabin discrepancies. Captain (myself) was PF, and was looking up maintenance reporting codes for logbook, when ATC queried us about making bronc at 11000 ft, we were beyond any hope of making it (maybe 5 or so mi from bronc, approximately 20000 ft). On 2 pilot aircraft, if anything unusual is going on it is way too easy to allow autoflt system to let you miss restrs. With 2 pilots and more than 2 things going on, something is being deferred or unattended. Unfortunately once in awhile it is the operation of the aircraft that is unattended. After all, computers don't make mistakes, do they?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF AN MLG UNDERSHOT DSCNT ALT RESULTING IN MISSING A XING RESTR.
Narrative: ATC GAVE US A RESTR TO CROSS BRONC INTXN AT 11000 FT. WE HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY REQUESTED TO GO AS FAST AS POSSIBLE FOR FOLLOWING TFC. TAILWIND WAS APPROX 135 KTS, GND SPD 625 KTS. FLT ATTENDANTS WERE IN COCKPIT RPTING GALLEY AND CABIN DISCREPANCIES. CAPT (MYSELF) WAS PF, AND WAS LOOKING UP MAINT RPTING CODES FOR LOGBOOK, WHEN ATC QUERIED US ABOUT MAKING BRONC AT 11000 FT, WE WERE BEYOND ANY HOPE OF MAKING IT (MAYBE 5 OR SO MI FROM BRONC, APPROX 20000 FT). ON 2 PLT ACFT, IF ANYTHING UNUSUAL IS GOING ON IT IS WAY TOO EASY TO ALLOW AUTOFLT SYS TO LET YOU MISS RESTRS. WITH 2 PLTS AND MORE THAN 2 THINGS GOING ON, SOMETHING IS BEING DEFERRED OR UNATTENDED. UNFORTUNATELY ONCE IN AWHILE IT IS THE OP OF THE ACFT THAT IS UNATTENDED. AFTER ALL, COMPUTERS DON'T MAKE MISTAKES, DO THEY?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.