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Attributes | |
ACN | 323911 |
Time | |
Date | 199512 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : cou |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 2800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc artcc : zoa |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | PA-60 601/601P Aerostar |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 9500 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 323911 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
I was flying an aerostar. I had one passenger in the back and a copilot in the right seat. My assigned altitude was 3000 ft and I was being vectored for a visual approach. The guy in the right seat was talking on the radio. The controller had us on 124.1 which isn't a good frequency for that area. We should have been on 118.4. We were in and out of the cloud bases until within about 5 mi of the airport. At that point we broke out and had the airport plainly in view. The copilot called airport in sight. The radio was breaking up. I understood we were cleared for the visual approach and started my descent. Then I heard the controller say maintain 2800 and realized he hadn't cleared me for the visual and couldn't hear us. I leveled at 2500 ft and called columbia tower for approach clearance. They cleared me for the approach. There was no problem except my leaving my assigned altitude in the confusion. I feel this wouldn't have occurred if we had been on the right frequency or if I had been talking to center myself. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter states the trouble was that he was allowing a friend and fellow pilot to do the radio work. Had he been on the radio he would have simply switched to the 118.4 frequency for communication. That is another center frequency, but with decent reception in the area. He feels they had just gone beyond the sector involved without a handoff. He admits his error in descending too soon.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AIR TAXI PLT HAS FREQ COM PROB RESULTING IN ALTDEV.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING AN AEROSTAR. I HAD ONE PAX IN THE BACK AND A COPLT IN THE R SEAT. MY ASSIGNED ALT WAS 3000 FT AND I WAS BEING VECTORED FOR A VISUAL APCH. THE GUY IN THE R SEAT WAS TALKING ON THE RADIO. THE CTLR HAD US ON 124.1 WHICH ISN'T A GOOD FREQ FOR THAT AREA. WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON 118.4. WE WERE IN AND OUT OF THE CLOUD BASES UNTIL WITHIN ABOUT 5 MI OF THE ARPT. AT THAT POINT WE BROKE OUT AND HAD THE ARPT PLAINLY IN VIEW. THE COPLT CALLED ARPT IN SIGHT. THE RADIO WAS BREAKING UP. I UNDERSTOOD WE WERE CLRED FOR THE VISUAL APCH AND STARTED MY DSCNT. THEN I HEARD THE CTLR SAY MAINTAIN 2800 AND REALIZED HE HADN'T CLRED ME FOR THE VISUAL AND COULDN'T HEAR US. I LEVELED AT 2500 FT AND CALLED COLUMBIA TWR FOR APCH CLRNC. THEY CLRED ME FOR THE APCH. THERE WAS NO PROB EXCEPT MY LEAVING MY ASSIGNED ALT IN THE CONFUSION. I FEEL THIS WOULDN'T HAVE OCCURRED IF WE HAD BEEN ON THE RIGHT FREQ OR IF I HAD BEEN TALKING TO CTR MYSELF. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATES THE TROUBLE WAS THAT HE WAS ALLOWING A FRIEND AND FELLOW PLT TO DO THE RADIO WORK. HAD HE BEEN ON THE RADIO HE WOULD HAVE SIMPLY SWITCHED TO THE 118.4 FREQ FOR COM. THAT IS ANOTHER CTR FREQ, BUT WITH DECENT RECEPTION IN THE AREA. HE FEELS THEY HAD JUST GONE BEYOND THE SECTOR INVOLVED WITHOUT A HDOF. HE ADMITS HIS ERROR IN DSNDING TOO SOON.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.