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Attributes | |
ACN | 325002 |
Time | |
Date | 199601 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : stl |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Jetstream 31 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 1980 |
ASRS Report | 325002 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : declared emergency other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
Had fire indication on right engine. Followed memory items and checklist for engine fire cap light. Evacuate/evacuationed passenger. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter (captain) and first officer had just been ramp checked. It was snowing, and the visibility varied between .5 to 1 mi. The aircraft was deiced, but because of all of the aircraft on holdover times, the flight crew had to return to the gate for a second deicing. After the second deicing, the flight crew taxied out and was cleared onto the runway for takeoff, shortly afterwards. When the aircraft was taxied onto the runway, the engine fire cap light illuminted. The flight crew declared an emergency, and followed checklist procedures -- firing both bottles. Maintenance told the reporter that they found no evidence of fire and that the false warning was a result of a bad fire wire, but the captain says that the same thing happened to another flight crew a week later (same aircraft and same engine), while they were on final approach. The captain thinks that the problem was related to a bleed leak. The heat from a bleed leak could break down the resistance in the wire and activate the warning. The reporter believes that this is true because the annunciator extinguished about 10 mins after the bottles had been fired. A bad fire wire would have caused the annunciator to remain permanently illuminated.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE MAIN ANNUNCIATOR ENG FIRE LIGHT ON A BA31 ILLUMINATED AFTER THE ACFT WAS TAXIED ONTO THE RWY. THE FLC DECLARED AN EMER, AND FOLLOWED ALL PROCS BEFORE FIRE TRUCKS ARRIVED. PAX WERE EVACED.
Narrative: HAD FIRE INDICATION ON R ENG. FOLLOWED MEMORY ITEMS AND CHKLIST FOR ENG FIRE CAP LIGHT. EVACED PAX. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR (CAPT) AND FO HAD JUST BEEN RAMP CHKED. IT WAS SNOWING, AND THE VISIBILITY VARIED BTWN .5 TO 1 MI. THE ACFT WAS DEICED, BUT BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE ACFT ON HOLDOVER TIMES, THE FLC HAD TO RETURN TO THE GATE FOR A SECOND DEICING. AFTER THE SECOND DEICING, THE FLC TAXIED OUT AND WAS CLRED ONTO THE RWY FOR TKOF, SHORTLY AFTERWARDS. WHEN THE ACFT WAS TAXIED ONTO THE RWY, THE ENG FIRE CAP LIGHT ILLUMINTED. THE FLC DECLARED AN EMER, AND FOLLOWED CHKLIST PROCS -- FIRING BOTH BOTTLES. MAINT TOLD THE RPTR THAT THEY FOUND NO EVIDENCE OF FIRE AND THAT THE FALSE WARNING WAS A RESULT OF A BAD FIRE WIRE, BUT THE CAPT SAYS THAT THE SAME THING HAPPENED TO ANOTHER FLC A WK LATER (SAME ACFT AND SAME ENG), WHILE THEY WERE ON FINAL APCH. THE CAPT THINKS THAT THE PROB WAS RELATED TO A BLEED LEAK. THE HEAT FROM A BLEED LEAK COULD BREAK DOWN THE RESISTANCE IN THE WIRE AND ACTIVATE THE WARNING. THE RPTR BELIEVES THAT THIS IS TRUE BECAUSE THE ANNUNCIATOR EXTINGUISHED ABOUT 10 MINS AFTER THE BOTTLES HAD BEEN FIRED. A BAD FIRE WIRE WOULD HAVE CAUSED THE ANNUNCIATOR TO REMAIN PERMANENTLY ILLUMINATED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.