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Attributes | |
ACN | 325550 |
Time | |
Date | 199601 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sfo |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10500 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : oak tower : bna |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 120 |
ASRS Report | 325550 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I understood we were cleared for the FMS bridge visual. This meant we were cleared to descend from 11000 ft to cedes down to 7000 ft. I descended out of 11000 ft and when first officer asked bay approach they said we were not cleared but were to expect the FMS bridge visual. I truly think we were 'cleared' for the FMS bridge visual prior to cedes.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WDB FLC HAS CONFUSION REGARDING CLRNC, DSNDS TOO SOON, TOLD TO 'EXPECT' THE FMS BRIDGE VISUAL APCH AND THOUGHT CLRED FOR IT.
Narrative: I UNDERSTOOD WE WERE CLRED FOR THE FMS BRIDGE VISUAL. THIS MEANT WE WERE CLRED TO DSND FROM 11000 FT TO CEDES DOWN TO 7000 FT. I DSNDED OUT OF 11000 FT AND WHEN FO ASKED BAY APCH THEY SAID WE WERE NOT CLRED BUT WERE TO EXPECT THE FMS BRIDGE VISUAL. I TRULY THINK WE WERE 'CLRED' FOR THE FMS BRIDGE VISUAL PRIOR TO CEDES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.