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Attributes | |
ACN | 325593 |
Time | |
Date | 199601 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pdx |
State Reference | OR |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-400 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 13000 |
ASRS Report | 325593 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
Improper and confusing taxiway markings not indicated on airport chart 10-9 dated sept/22/95. 2 problems: chart shows old CAT ii holding line on taxiway B at approach end of runway 10R. The new, current ILS hold short line, now on taxiway B1, is not shown. Secondly, the old CAT ii hold line has not been completely removed from the taxiway. Pdx-bur. We taxied via taxiway B to runway 10R and ground control instructed us to hold short of the CAT ii hold line. We stopped where it is indicated on the chart and ground control said that the line had been moved closer to the runway. We taxied forward without knowing just where the new line was. WX by XX00Z ATIS: W1 overcast 1/8 F. RVR was varying around 1000 ft. This is not a time, place, or WX to have confusing and inconsistent taxiway markings, 10-9 chart, and instructions from ground control, while CAT III approachs are being used.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAT II HOLD SHORT POINT INCONSISTENT WITH CHART OLD LINE STILL VISIBLE.
Narrative: IMPROPER AND CONFUSING TXWY MARKINGS NOT INDICATED ON ARPT CHART 10-9 DATED SEPT/22/95. 2 PROBS: CHART SHOWS OLD CAT II HOLDING LINE ON TXWY B AT APCH END OF RWY 10R. THE NEW, CURRENT ILS HOLD SHORT LINE, NOW ON TXWY B1, IS NOT SHOWN. SECONDLY, THE OLD CAT II HOLD LINE HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETELY REMOVED FROM THE TXWY. PDX-BUR. WE TAXIED VIA TXWY B TO RWY 10R AND GND CTL INSTRUCTED US TO HOLD SHORT OF THE CAT II HOLD LINE. WE STOPPED WHERE IT IS INDICATED ON THE CHART AND GND CTL SAID THAT THE LINE HAD BEEN MOVED CLOSER TO THE RWY. WE TAXIED FORWARD WITHOUT KNOWING JUST WHERE THE NEW LINE WAS. WX BY XX00Z ATIS: W1 OVCST 1/8 F. RVR WAS VARYING AROUND 1000 FT. THIS IS NOT A TIME, PLACE, OR WX TO HAVE CONFUSING AND INCONSISTENT TXWY MARKINGS, 10-9 CHART, AND INSTRUCTIONS FROM GND CTL, WHILE CAT III APCHS ARE BEING USED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.