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Flight of 4 military A10 aircraft on climb with marsa in effect. Reporter loses sight of lead but continues climb to FL220 with no ATC contact.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 328270 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199602 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : jot |
| State Reference | IL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 22000 msl bound upper : 22000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zau tracon : ord |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Fighter |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Fighter |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : military |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : military |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 260 |
| ASRS Report | 328270 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : military |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : military |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was #4 in flight of 4 military aircraft deploying from home station btl to dma, with stop-overs at szl and cvs. As I climbed on my own IFR flight plan out of the WX (tops approximately 14000 ft), I caught sight of my element leader and informed him on FM radio. Distance between our aircraft is estimated to be 5 mi or so. Element leader informed ZAU that I had visual contact, and declared 'marsa.' after about 1 min, as I momentarily looked away to do a time/fuel usage update, element leader received clearance, INS direct to szl. After I looked up, I could no longer see leader. I continued to look for him for approximately 8 mins as I climbed to FL220, with no IFF on and no IFR clearance (canceled by marsa). I turned towards szl later than lead, then turned south of heading in a futile search for element lead. I finally informed lead, who initiated radio calls to ZAU, which assigned me a discrete IFF and rapidly effected an IFR join-up. I've been around long enough to realize this (my actions) were very stupid, very unprofessional, displayed very poor judgement in not contacting element lead immediately upon loss of visual contact.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT OF 4 MIL A10 ACFT ON CLB WITH MARSA IN EFFECT. RPTR LOSES SIGHT OF LEAD BUT CONTINUES CLB TO FL220 WITH NO ATC CONTACT.
Narrative: I WAS #4 IN FLT OF 4 MIL ACFT DEPLOYING FROM HOME STATION BTL TO DMA, WITH STOP-OVERS AT SZL AND CVS. AS I CLBED ON MY OWN IFR FLT PLAN OUT OF THE WX (TOPS APPROX 14000 FT), I CAUGHT SIGHT OF MY ELEMENT LEADER AND INFORMED HIM ON FM RADIO. DISTANCE BTWN OUR ACFT IS ESTIMATED TO BE 5 MI OR SO. ELEMENT LEADER INFORMED ZAU THAT I HAD VISUAL CONTACT, AND DECLARED 'MARSA.' AFTER ABOUT 1 MIN, AS I MOMENTARILY LOOKED AWAY TO DO A TIME/FUEL USAGE UPDATE, ELEMENT LEADER RECEIVED CLRNC, INS DIRECT TO SZL. AFTER I LOOKED UP, I COULD NO LONGER SEE LEADER. I CONTINUED TO LOOK FOR HIM FOR APPROX 8 MINS AS I CLBED TO FL220, WITH NO IFF ON AND NO IFR CLRNC (CANCELED BY MARSA). I TURNED TOWARDS SZL LATER THAN LEAD, THEN TURNED S OF HDG IN A FUTILE SEARCH FOR ELEMENT LEAD. I FINALLY INFORMED LEAD, WHO INITIATED RADIO CALLS TO ZAU, WHICH ASSIGNED ME A DISCRETE IFF AND RAPIDLY EFFECTED AN IFR JOIN-UP. I'VE BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO REALIZE THIS (MY ACTIONS) WERE VERY STUPID, VERY UNPROFESSIONAL, DISPLAYED VERY POOR JUDGEMENT IN NOT CONTACTING ELEMENT LEAD IMMEDIATELY UPON LOSS OF VISUAL CONTACT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.