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Attributes | |
ACN | 330060 |
Time | |
Date | 199603 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dca |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dca |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 12000 |
ASRS Report | 330060 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time total : 15000 |
ASRS Report | 330285 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After a go around due to windshear on a visual approach to runway 36 at dca, my aircraft was vectored to a left downwind west of the airport for another approach. I was asked if I had the river in sight and said that I did. I was cleared for a visual approach and started a turn to the east toward the potomac river and the airport. We were told we would follow a B757 on a straight in approach. I expected the aircraft to be ahead of me and present a wake turbulence problem but when I first saw the B757 it was at my 1 O'clock as I turned toward the east. I turned south to avoid the B757. I was vectored behind 2 other aircraft for a long straight in and landed without further incident. I thought I was cleared for a visual approach before I acknowledged or saw my traffic. I turned in to keep pace with the usual rush of dca traffic. The B757 was a company aircraft and some call sign confusion may have contributed to this situation. Supplemental information from acn 330770: the cockpit was very busy with checklists and other cockpit duties when all 3 crew members heard ATC ask if we had the river in sight. The copilot responded affirmative and we heard ATC clear us for the visual. I can't be certain whether we heard ATC wrong or they made a mistake but immediately after turning toward the river we received simultaneous warnings from ATC and TCASII about the B757 established on the river visual. Visual contact with the traffic was immediate as was a turn to the south which prevented a conflict. Regardless of who made the initial mistake the situation might have been avoided if both parties listened more carefully to the call signs given by the other party. Without listening to the tapes I really can't say much else about the situation except that a busy cockpit may have contributed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: RPTR ACFT ON VECTORS WAS CLRED FOR A VISUAL APCH, BUT WHEN RPTR ACFT TURNED INBOUND APCH CTL TOLD THEM THEY WERE FOLLOWING ANOTHER ACFT. WHEN RPTR FLC SAW THEIR TFC ACFT THEY HAD TO TAKE EVASIVE ACTION TO KEEP SEPARATION.
Narrative: AFTER A GAR DUE TO WINDSHEAR ON A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 36 AT DCA, MY ACFT WAS VECTORED TO A L DOWNWIND W OF THE ARPT FOR ANOTHER APCH. I WAS ASKED IF I HAD THE RIVER IN SIGHT AND SAID THAT I DID. I WAS CLRED FOR A VISUAL APCH AND STARTED A TURN TO THE E TOWARD THE POTOMAC RIVER AND THE ARPT. WE WERE TOLD WE WOULD FOLLOW A B757 ON A STRAIGHT IN APCH. I EXPECTED THE ACFT TO BE AHEAD OF ME AND PRESENT A WAKE TURB PROB BUT WHEN I FIRST SAW THE B757 IT WAS AT MY 1 O'CLOCK AS I TURNED TOWARD THE E. I TURNED S TO AVOID THE B757. I WAS VECTORED BEHIND 2 OTHER ACFT FOR A LONG STRAIGHT IN AND LANDED WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. I THOUGHT I WAS CLRED FOR A VISUAL APCH BEFORE I ACKNOWLEDGED OR SAW MY TFC. I TURNED IN TO KEEP PACE WITH THE USUAL RUSH OF DCA TFC. THE B757 WAS A COMPANY ACFT AND SOME CALL SIGN CONFUSION MAY HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO THIS SIT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 330770: THE COCKPIT WAS VERY BUSY WITH CHKLISTS AND OTHER COCKPIT DUTIES WHEN ALL 3 CREW MEMBERS HEARD ATC ASK IF WE HAD THE RIVER IN SIGHT. THE COPLT RESPONDED AFFIRMATIVE AND WE HEARD ATC CLR US FOR THE VISUAL. I CAN'T BE CERTAIN WHETHER WE HEARD ATC WRONG OR THEY MADE A MISTAKE BUT IMMEDIATELY AFTER TURNING TOWARD THE RIVER WE RECEIVED SIMULTANEOUS WARNINGS FROM ATC AND TCASII ABOUT THE B757 ESTABLISHED ON THE RIVER VISUAL. VISUAL CONTACT WITH THE TFC WAS IMMEDIATE AS WAS A TURN TO THE S WHICH PREVENTED A CONFLICT. REGARDLESS OF WHO MADE THE INITIAL MISTAKE THE SIT MIGHT HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF BOTH PARTIES LISTENED MORE CAREFULLY TO THE CALL SIGNS GIVEN BY THE OTHER PARTY. WITHOUT LISTENING TO THE TAPES I REALLY CAN'T SAY MUCH ELSE ABOUT THE SIT EXCEPT THAT A BUSY COCKPIT MAY HAVE CONTRIBUTED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.