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Attributes | |
ACN | 331284 |
Time | |
Date | 199603 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cak |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 270 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1200 |
ASRS Report | 331284 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 2500 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 331284 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Taxied aircraft onto runway. It was the active but being plowed and brushed at time of incursion. Contributing factors: WX, snow had fallen on ramp and blown/drifting onto signs to some extent. Ground control was talking to snow plows on the runway. Ground then asked us if we were ready to go before we were in any position to take off. There was no traffic conflict with this. Human factors: late night and flying last 2 days dealing with strong low pressure system, tired due to rough rides, numerous approachs to minimums with strong xwinds and turbulence with blowing snow. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter states he has not been back to cak since this incident so cannot really tell where the signs get confusing. One has to cross runway 32/14 getting to runway 1 and the normal procedure is to taxi on taxiway a. Seeing the sign placed prior to runway 1/19 but indicating runway 32/14 assured them they were crossing the non active taxiway. Reporter feels strongly that the sign gives misinfo and does not indicate the correct runway. They had to back taxi for takeoff. Of course the snow conditions added to the problems along with controller querying if they wanted to take off right away or wait until snow removal was completed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER TAXIING IN SNOW ENTERS ACTIVE RWY DUE TO CONFUSING SIGNAGE.
Narrative: TAXIED ACFT ONTO RWY. IT WAS THE ACTIVE BUT BEING PLOWED AND BRUSHED AT TIME OF INCURSION. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: WX, SNOW HAD FALLEN ON RAMP AND BLOWN/DRIFTING ONTO SIGNS TO SOME EXTENT. GND CTL WAS TALKING TO SNOW PLOWS ON THE RWY. GND THEN ASKED US IF WE WERE READY TO GO BEFORE WE WERE IN ANY POS TO TAKE OFF. THERE WAS NO TFC CONFLICT WITH THIS. HUMAN FACTORS: LATE NIGHT AND FLYING LAST 2 DAYS DEALING WITH STRONG LOW PRESSURE SYS, TIRED DUE TO ROUGH RIDES, NUMEROUS APCHS TO MINIMUMS WITH STRONG XWINDS AND TURB WITH BLOWING SNOW. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATES HE HAS NOT BEEN BACK TO CAK SINCE THIS INCIDENT SO CANNOT REALLY TELL WHERE THE SIGNS GET CONFUSING. ONE HAS TO CROSS RWY 32/14 GETTING TO RWY 1 AND THE NORMAL PROC IS TO TAXI ON TXWY A. SEEING THE SIGN PLACED PRIOR TO RWY 1/19 BUT INDICATING RWY 32/14 ASSURED THEM THEY WERE XING THE NON ACTIVE TXWY. RPTR FEELS STRONGLY THAT THE SIGN GIVES MISINFO AND DOES NOT INDICATE THE CORRECT RWY. THEY HAD TO BACK TAXI FOR TKOF. OF COURSE THE SNOW CONDITIONS ADDED TO THE PROBS ALONG WITH CTLR QUERYING IF THEY WANTED TO TAKE OFF RIGHT AWAY OR WAIT UNTIL SNOW REMOVAL WAS COMPLETED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.