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The first officer was told to level at FL310. The combination of turbulence and other factors caused him to overshoot his altitude 600 ft by the time the captain took it and stabilized at FL310. ATC said to go direct kinston. Before RNAV was programmed ATC said the flight is not heading to kinston, and provided a heading. An airliner claimed their TCASII alerted them of the reporter's excursion and the airliner said they would file a complaint.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 331782 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199602 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : bal |
| State Reference | MD |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 31000 msl bound upper : 31600 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Learjet 24 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 25000 flight time type : 50 |
| ASRS Report | 331782 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter other non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : regained aircraft control flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
| Consequence | faa : assigned or threatened penalties faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 1400 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Told to level off at 31000 ft. First officer flying. Combination of turbulence and other factors, he couldn't level it. Erratic inputs, by the time I could take over we had gone to 31600 ft. I took it and stabilized at FL310. Then told to go direct to kinston VOR. Too far out, by the time RNAV was programmed, ATC informed us we were not going to kinston, and gave us a heading. An airliner flight claimed their TCASII alerted them. They say they saw us. We didn't see them. The airliner flight lodged a complaint with ATC. ATC is (ZDC) investigating, has called me at home 3 or 4 times. They say they are going to take action against me. I have been cooperative in giving them all information possible. This is the second report I have sent you, in reference to this incident. I have not received the identify strip back, or any acknowledgement of your receipt of this report. Please help. Remedial action: I had better fly it in turbulence. When I see that I can't conform to clearance, so inform ATC so they can issue a new clearance or vector us out of the way or something. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter stated he was flying a lear 24. He said he received the original slip and that saved him a 90 day suspension of his license.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE FO WAS TOLD TO LEVEL AT FL310. THE COMBINATION OF TURB AND OTHER FACTORS CAUSED HIM TO OVERSHOOT HIS ALT 600 FT BY THE TIME THE CAPT TOOK IT AND STABILIZED AT FL310. ATC SAID TO GO DIRECT KINSTON. BEFORE RNAV WAS PROGRAMMED ATC SAID THE FLT IS NOT HEADING TO KINSTON, AND PROVIDED A HDG. AN AIRLINER CLAIMED THEIR TCASII ALERTED THEM OF THE RPTR'S EXCURSION AND THE AIRLINER SAID THEY WOULD FILE A COMPLAINT.
Narrative: TOLD TO LEVEL OFF AT 31000 FT. FO FLYING. COMBINATION OF TURB AND OTHER FACTORS, HE COULDN'T LEVEL IT. ERRATIC INPUTS, BY THE TIME I COULD TAKE OVER WE HAD GONE TO 31600 FT. I TOOK IT AND STABILIZED AT FL310. THEN TOLD TO GO DIRECT TO KINSTON VOR. TOO FAR OUT, BY THE TIME RNAV WAS PROGRAMMED, ATC INFORMED US WE WERE NOT GOING TO KINSTON, AND GAVE US A HDG. AN AIRLINER FLT CLAIMED THEIR TCASII ALERTED THEM. THEY SAY THEY SAW US. WE DIDN'T SEE THEM. THE AIRLINER FLT LODGED A COMPLAINT WITH ATC. ATC IS (ZDC) INVESTIGATING, HAS CALLED ME AT HOME 3 OR 4 TIMES. THEY SAY THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST ME. I HAVE BEEN COOPERATIVE IN GIVING THEM ALL INFO POSSIBLE. THIS IS THE SECOND RPT I HAVE SENT YOU, IN REF TO THIS INCIDENT. I HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE IDENT STRIP BACK, OR ANY ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF YOUR RECEIPT OF THIS RPT. PLEASE HELP. REMEDIAL ACTION: I HAD BETTER FLY IT IN TURB. WHEN I SEE THAT I CAN'T CONFORM TO CLRNC, SO INFORM ATC SO THEY CAN ISSUE A NEW CLRNC OR VECTOR US OUT OF THE WAY OR SOMETHING. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR STATED HE WAS FLYING A LEAR 24. HE SAID HE RECEIVED THE ORIGINAL SLIP AND THAT SAVED HIM A 90 DAY SUSPENSION OF HIS LICENSE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.