Narrative:

On departure from dfw we were having some difficulty with data link reception and had to manually load the FMS at the gate, and during taxi the first officer attempted to obtain the load closeout via ACARS a couple of times while we were accomplishing the before takeoff checklist. As we approached the departure end of the runway, he asked if he should inform the tower that we would need a few mins and I told him to hold on, as I thought that we would still have time to receive the data and finish the checklist before the tower would be ready for us. Meanwhile, I switched to tower frequency as the first officer was pulling data out of the ACARS printer and showed me a new tps for runway 18L with a weight 1000 pounds below our planned takeoff weight and the current temperature and understood him to say 'we got it' as he loaded information into the FMS and trc. I reviewed the takeoff data on the new tps as being 'temperature and weights good at 1000 pounds below planned, bugs are reset at 131, 131 and 135, 1.62 EPR for flex power for runway 18L, set and crosschecked.' it wasn't until approximately 20 mins after takeoff, in a subsequent conversation with the first officer, that I realized that we had never received a final load closeout. At this point I contacted load control, via radio, and inquired as to our passenger count, etc, at which we were sent and received a final closeout. In retrospect, I realize that I probably rushed the first officer through the final checks and should have simply notified the tower that we would be delayed a few mins. I would not have departed without the closeout, but somehow allowed the new tps to take the place of the closeout as I reviewed the data. I think establishing the habit of actually handling the closeout, as opposed to having the first officer's hold and review it, will prevent the misunderstanding from occurring again.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: THE FO ASKED THE CAPT IF HE THOUGHT THEY SHOULD INFORM THE TWR THAT A FEW MINS IS NEEDED TO RECEIVE THE WT AND BAL DATA AND COMPLETE THE CHKLIST. THE CAPT SAID NO AND REVIEWED THE SUBSEQUENTLY ACQUIRED TKOF PERFORMANCE SETTINGS ASSUMING THEY WERE BASED ON WT AND BAL RECEIVED. THE CAPT, AFTER TKOF, LEARNED THEY DID NOT HAVE THE REQUIRED WT AND BAL ON BOARD.

Narrative: ON DEP FROM DFW WE WERE HAVING SOME DIFFICULTY WITH DATA LINK RECEPTION AND HAD TO MANUALLY LOAD THE FMS AT THE GATE, AND DURING TAXI THE FO ATTEMPTED TO OBTAIN THE LOAD CLOSEOUT VIA ACARS A COUPLE OF TIMES WHILE WE WERE ACCOMPLISHING THE BEFORE TKOF CHKLIST. AS WE APCHED THE DEP END OF THE RWY, HE ASKED IF HE SHOULD INFORM THE TWR THAT WE WOULD NEED A FEW MINS AND I TOLD HIM TO HOLD ON, AS I THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD STILL HAVE TIME TO RECEIVE THE DATA AND FINISH THE CHKLIST BEFORE THE TWR WOULD BE READY FOR US. MEANWHILE, I SWITCHED TO TWR FREQ AS THE FO WAS PULLING DATA OUT OF THE ACARS PRINTER AND SHOWED ME A NEW TPS FOR RWY 18L WITH A WT 1000 LBS BELOW OUR PLANNED TKOF WT AND THE CURRENT TEMP AND UNDERSTOOD HIM TO SAY 'WE GOT IT' AS HE LOADED INFO INTO THE FMS AND TRC. I REVIEWED THE TKOF DATA ON THE NEW TPS AS BEING 'TEMP AND WTS GOOD AT 1000 LBS BELOW PLANNED, BUGS ARE RESET AT 131, 131 AND 135, 1.62 EPR FOR FLEX PWR FOR RWY 18L, SET AND XCHKED.' IT WASN'T UNTIL APPROX 20 MINS AFTER TKOF, IN A SUBSEQUENT CONVERSATION WITH THE FO, THAT I REALIZED THAT WE HAD NEVER RECEIVED A FINAL LOAD CLOSEOUT. AT THIS POINT I CONTACTED LOAD CTL, VIA RADIO, AND INQUIRED AS TO OUR PAX COUNT, ETC, AT WHICH WE WERE SENT AND RECEIVED A FINAL CLOSEOUT. IN RETROSPECT, I REALIZE THAT I PROBABLY RUSHED THE FO THROUGH THE FINAL CHKS AND SHOULD HAVE SIMPLY NOTIFIED THE TWR THAT WE WOULD BE DELAYED A FEW MINS. I WOULD NOT HAVE DEPARTED WITHOUT THE CLOSEOUT, BUT SOMEHOW ALLOWED THE NEW TPS TO TAKE THE PLACE OF THE CLOSEOUT AS I REVIEWED THE DATA. I THINK ESTABLISHING THE HABIT OF ACTUALLY HANDLING THE CLOSEOUT, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING THE FO'S HOLD AND REVIEW IT, WILL PREVENT THE MISUNDERSTANDING FROM OCCURRING AGAIN.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.