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Air carrier passenger on an medium large transport concerned about the close proximity of another medium large transport aircraft during a side-by-side visual approach to parallel runways.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 332870 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199604 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sfo |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1800 msl bound upper : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : oak |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 332870 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 750 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Sfo approach cleared us the FMS runway 28R approach with a speed restr. They then advised us a B737 would be making an approach to runway 28L. We were then issued a clearance to maintain visual separation with the B737 and a further speed restr to 170 KTS was issued. It soon became obvious, this would be a side-by-side approach so we slowed down another 10 KTS. Nothing changed so he must have had the same thoughts we did. All the time, we are trying to get down to the FMS GS because approach kept us high and hot longer than we would have liked. At brijj, the approach has a jog to the left to line up on runway 28R. We kept the B737 ahead of us but barely. The reason for this report is the approach upset several passenger on the left side of the aircraft. They thought we were way too close. I know this increases arrival rates, but it can be upsetting to passenger.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR PAX ON AN MLG CONCERNED ABOUT THE CLOSE PROX OF ANOTHER MLG ACFT DURING A SIDE-BY-SIDE VISUAL APCH TO PARALLEL RWYS.
Narrative: SFO APCH CLRED US THE FMS RWY 28R APCH WITH A SPD RESTR. THEY THEN ADVISED US A B737 WOULD BE MAKING AN APCH TO RWY 28L. WE WERE THEN ISSUED A CLRNC TO MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION WITH THE B737 AND A FURTHER SPD RESTR TO 170 KTS WAS ISSUED. IT SOON BECAME OBVIOUS, THIS WOULD BE A SIDE-BY-SIDE APCH SO WE SLOWED DOWN ANOTHER 10 KTS. NOTHING CHANGED SO HE MUST HAVE HAD THE SAME THOUGHTS WE DID. ALL THE TIME, WE ARE TRYING TO GET DOWN TO THE FMS GS BECAUSE APCH KEPT US HIGH AND HOT LONGER THAN WE WOULD HAVE LIKED. AT BRIJJ, THE APCH HAS A JOG TO THE L TO LINE UP ON RWY 28R. WE KEPT THE B737 AHEAD OF US BUT BARELY. THE REASON FOR THIS RPT IS THE APCH UPSET SEVERAL PAX ON THE L SIDE OF THE ACFT. THEY THOUGHT WE WERE WAY TOO CLOSE. I KNOW THIS INCREASES ARR RATES, BUT IT CAN BE UPSETTING TO PAX.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.