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Attributes | |
ACN | 332900 |
Time | |
Date | 199604 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bil |
State Reference | MT |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 50 agl bound upper : 200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : bil |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Cessna 152 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 1200 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 332900 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I had a private pilot student that I was working with in preparation for his chkride, and we were doing some hood work. We had been cleared for takeoff on runway 28R and direct to the VOR and I had the student under the hood. To my knowledge we were not given any TA's from the tower. The student was having a little trouble with his scan and we were climbing in the general vicinity of the VOR. At probably 200 ft AGL he began a right turn to a heading of 330 degrees and I asked him where he was headed. At this point I believe we were about 50-100 ft north of the runway at the most. The student immediately caught his mistake and turned back towards the VOR. I then heard another pilot tell the tower that somebody had just about hit him and he should get the call sign. The tower told the pilot that he didn't know who it could be it was nobody he was talking to. Then the tower yelled our call sign, 'what are you doing north of the runway?' then he told us to go to departure. Apparently another plane had been cleared to land on runway 10L and we had come close to hitting him. I would have not let my student turn at all if I had known there was opposite direction traffic. I think, however, now, that maybe it is not so wise to have a student pilot under the hood in a high density area.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WHILE GIVING INST TRAINING TO A PVT PLT APPLICANT WHO WAS UNDER A HOOD, THE INSTRUCTOR PLT ALLOWED THE ACFT TO STRAY FROM THE CLRNC FLT PATH AND CROSS OVER THE APCH OF RWY 10L. THE TRACK DEV RESULTED IN AN NMAC WITH TFC ON SHORT FINAL TO RWY 10L.
Narrative: I HAD A PVT PLT STUDENT THAT I WAS WORKING WITH IN PREPARATION FOR HIS CHKRIDE, AND WE WERE DOING SOME HOOD WORK. WE HAD BEEN CLRED FOR TKOF ON RWY 28R AND DIRECT TO THE VOR AND I HAD THE STUDENT UNDER THE HOOD. TO MY KNOWLEDGE WE WERE NOT GIVEN ANY TA'S FROM THE TWR. THE STUDENT WAS HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE WITH HIS SCAN AND WE WERE CLBING IN THE GENERAL VICINITY OF THE VOR. AT PROBABLY 200 FT AGL HE BEGAN A R TURN TO A HDG OF 330 DEGS AND I ASKED HIM WHERE HE WAS HEADED. AT THIS POINT I BELIEVE WE WERE ABOUT 50-100 FT N OF THE RWY AT THE MOST. THE STUDENT IMMEDIATELY CAUGHT HIS MISTAKE AND TURNED BACK TOWARDS THE VOR. I THEN HEARD ANOTHER PLT TELL THE TWR THAT SOMEBODY HAD JUST ABOUT HIT HIM AND HE SHOULD GET THE CALL SIGN. THE TWR TOLD THE PLT THAT HE DIDN'T KNOW WHO IT COULD BE IT WAS NOBODY HE WAS TALKING TO. THEN THE TWR YELLED OUR CALL SIGN, 'WHAT ARE YOU DOING N OF THE RWY?' THEN HE TOLD US TO GO TO DEP. APPARENTLY ANOTHER PLANE HAD BEEN CLRED TO LAND ON RWY 10L AND WE HAD COME CLOSE TO HITTING HIM. I WOULD HAVE NOT LET MY STUDENT TURN AT ALL IF I HAD KNOWN THERE WAS OPPOSITE DIRECTION TFC. I THINK, HOWEVER, NOW, THAT MAYBE IT IS NOT SO WISE TO HAVE A STUDENT PLT UNDER THE HOOD IN A HIGH DENSITY AREA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.