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Attributes | |
ACN | 333263 |
Time | |
Date | 199604 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pdx |
State Reference | OR |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pdx |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Airliner 99 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 350 |
ASRS Report | 333263 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
BE99 was on an IFR flight approximately 12 NM southwest of pdx. I canceled IFR and was advised to fly the 'boxer one.' I responded 'wilco' the boxer one is a VFR procedure not found in any charts or navigation pubs. It prescribes crossing a point 12.5 NM south of pdx at 2000 ft. I canceled at about 15 NM southwest at 6000 ft and felt it would be impractical to dive to 2000 ft in 2.5 mi. The controller advised me of traffic ahead at 3000 ft. I responded 'looking.' about 1 min later the controller advised traffic 12 O'clock less than 1 mi. At this point I saw the traffic and leveled off at 3500 ft. The controller asked if I was flying the 'boxer one.' I responded yes and explained why I had not descended to 2000 ft. The problem as it see it, is that I fly the 'boxer one' every night and never adhere to it by the letter. It calls for 2000 ft and 150 KTS which is rarely asked for or complied with. I should have asked for a deviation but did not. I feel it would be safe to issue individual clrncs to each aircraft such as: direct pdx, 180 KTS.' in order to clarify what the boxer one was I had to look at a xerox copy on the bulletin board in the office.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: APPROX 12 NM SW OF PDX AT 6000 FT THE RPTR CANCELED IFR AND APCH SAID TO FLY THE 'BOXER ONE' WHICH IS A LCL VFR PROC NOT FOUND IN NORMAL CHARTS OR NAV PUBS. THE RPTR SAID 'WILCO.' IT PRESCRIBES XING 12 PT 5 NM S OF PDX AT 2000 FT. THE RPTR DID NOT DIVE FOR 2000 FT BUT SUBSEQUENTLY HAD A NMAC WITH TFC AT 3000 FT. THE RPTR ADMITTED HE WAS NOT COMPLYING WITH THE 'BOXER ONE' ALT RESTRS WHEN QUERIED BY THE CTLR.
Narrative: BE99 WAS ON AN IFR FLT APPROX 12 NM SW OF PDX. I CANCELED IFR AND WAS ADVISED TO FLY THE 'BOXER ONE.' I RESPONDED 'WILCO' THE BOXER ONE IS A VFR PROC NOT FOUND IN ANY CHARTS OR NAV PUBS. IT PRESCRIBES XING A POINT 12.5 NM S OF PDX AT 2000 FT. I CANCELED AT ABOUT 15 NM SW AT 6000 FT AND FELT IT WOULD BE IMPRACTICAL TO DIVE TO 2000 FT IN 2.5 MI. THE CTLR ADVISED ME OF TFC AHEAD AT 3000 FT. I RESPONDED 'LOOKING.' ABOUT 1 MIN LATER THE CTLR ADVISED TFC 12 O'CLOCK LESS THAN 1 MI. AT THIS POINT I SAW THE TFC AND LEVELED OFF AT 3500 FT. THE CTLR ASKED IF I WAS FLYING THE 'BOXER ONE.' I RESPONDED YES AND EXPLAINED WHY I HAD NOT DSNDED TO 2000 FT. THE PROB AS IT SEE IT, IS THAT I FLY THE 'BOXER ONE' EVERY NIGHT AND NEVER ADHERE TO IT BY THE LETTER. IT CALLS FOR 2000 FT AND 150 KTS WHICH IS RARELY ASKED FOR OR COMPLIED WITH. I SHOULD HAVE ASKED FOR A DEV BUT DID NOT. I FEEL IT WOULD BE SAFE TO ISSUE INDIVIDUAL CLRNCS TO EACH ACFT SUCH AS: DIRECT PDX, 180 KTS.' IN ORDER TO CLARIFY WHAT THE BOXER ONE WAS I HAD TO LOOK AT A XEROX COPY ON THE BULLETIN BOARD IN THE OFFICE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.