<< >> NASA ASRS Report 333373, April 1996

Aircraft high and fast on ILS approach during instrument training flight. Go around initiated, but flight crew forgot to inform ATC. During next approach, trainee got wide on the pattern and interfered with another aircraft on approach.

Attributes
ACN	333373
Time
Date	199604
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : asg
State Reference	AR
Altitude	agl bound lower : 700 agl bound upper : 700
Environment
Flight Conditions	IMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : fyv
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 1740 flight time type : 100
ASRS Report	333373
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : private
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Approach kept us at 4000 ft almost to VOR to allow a twin under us to shoot runway 1 approach to rogers and cleared us to 3000 ft way late for normal GS intercept. Made fast descent to catch GS, broke out too fast to land with existing surface tailwind, so circled to land. I forgot to notify approach of our intentions to circle to land as had been cleared to local field frequency before tower up. Notified them on turn to final and canceled IFR on final approach to land. An inbound VOR/DME runway 36 approach pilot said he had to make a 360 degree turn because of us. Also, let student get too wide in circle.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACFT HIGH AND FAST ON ILS APCH DURING INST TRAINING FLT. GAR INITIATED, BUT FLC FORGOT TO INFORM ATC. DURING NEXT APCH, TRAINEE GOT WIDE ON THE PATTERN AND INTERFERED WITH ANOTHER ACFT ON APCH.

Narrative: APCH KEPT US AT 4000 FT ALMOST TO VOR TO ALLOW A TWIN UNDER US TO SHOOT RWY 1 APCH TO ROGERS AND CLRED US TO 3000 FT WAY LATE FOR NORMAL GS INTERCEPT. MADE FAST DSCNT TO CATCH GS, BROKE OUT TOO FAST TO LAND WITH EXISTING SURFACE TAILWIND, SO CIRCLED TO LAND. I FORGOT TO NOTIFY APCH OF OUR INTENTIONS TO CIRCLE TO LAND AS HAD BEEN CLRED TO LCL FIELD FREQ BEFORE TWR UP. NOTIFIED THEM ON TURN TO FINAL AND CANCELED IFR ON FINAL APCH TO LAND. AN INBOUND VOR/DME RWY 36 APCH PLT SAID HE HAD TO MAKE A 360 DEG TURN BECAUSE OF US. ALSO, LET STUDENT GET TOO WIDE IN CIRCLE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.