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Attributes | |
ACN | 333572 |
Time | |
Date | 199604 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : las |
State Reference | NV |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 9000 msl bound upper : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : las |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : initial ground : preflight |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 333572 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 1400 |
ASRS Report | 333573 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
Company flight plan forecast showed mead 1 departure. Picked up pre departure clearance on very short turn and briefed mead 1. On takeoff and switching to departure control, was asked if we were in right turn. Said yes and controller asked if tower gave us right turn. Didn't remember anything except 'cleared for takeoff.' upon rechking pre departure clearance, saw that departure had been changed to oasis 1 departure. Was wondering how we could go direct gfd when not on mead 1 SID. Pre departure clearance's need to show changes more clearly or eliminate previous clrncs totally to help avoid confusion. More attention should be paid by crews even with heavy workloads.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT A CHANGE HAD BEEN INSERTED INTO THEIR PDC. ASSUMING THAT THEY WERE CLRED AS PER THEIR FLT PLAN FORECAST THEY COMMENCED A WRONG TURN AFTER TKOF WHICH WAS CAUGHT BY DEP CTL WHO GAVE THEM THE PROPER CLRNC.
Narrative: COMPANY FLT PLAN FORECAST SHOWED MEAD 1 DEP. PICKED UP PDC ON VERY SHORT TURN AND BRIEFED MEAD 1. ON TKOF AND SWITCHING TO DEP CTL, WAS ASKED IF WE WERE IN R TURN. SAID YES AND CTLR ASKED IF TWR GAVE US R TURN. DIDN'T REMEMBER ANYTHING EXCEPT 'CLRED FOR TKOF.' UPON RECHKING PDC, SAW THAT DEP HAD BEEN CHANGED TO OASIS 1 DEP. WAS WONDERING HOW WE COULD GO DIRECT GFD WHEN NOT ON MEAD 1 SID. PDC'S NEED TO SHOW CHANGES MORE CLRLY OR ELIMINATE PREVIOUS CLRNCS TOTALLY TO HELP AVOID CONFUSION. MORE ATTN SHOULD BE PAID BY CREWS EVEN WITH HVY WORKLOADS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.