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Aircraft on final approach, under tower control, was overflown by aircraft operating out of nearby class B airspace. Class B approach controller did not advise tower of traffic.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 333736 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199604 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : orl |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1200 msl bound upper : 1200 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : orl tower : isp |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | King Air 100 A/B |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 400 |
| ASRS Report | 333736 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Miss Distance | vertical : 400 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
We were being vectored for a visual approach to runway 25, at orl airport. At about 8 mi east we called the airport in sight, approach cleared us for a visual to runway 25 and turned us over to the tower. Upon switching to the tower we were cleared for a modified straight-in to runway 25. At about a 4 mi final and altitude of 1200 ft MSL, we noticed traffic at our 9-10 O'clock position, operating in class B airspace just south of our aircraft northbound at about 1600 ft MSL. We had visual with the aircraft but were surprised to see the aircraft at that position. We received no indication from approach that the aircraft would be operating in that area. The tower did call our attention to the aircraft and we advised that we had visual with the aircraft, and had been watching the traffic. After landing I called the tower on the phone and talked with the controller. He stated that he had not been advised by approach that the aircraft would be returning to a northbound heading at that altitude and that he was surprised to see the aircraft. He went on to say that he had last observed the aircraft sbound at 2600 ft MSL. The aircraft was a flight check king air. Be alert at all times -- sure would be nice to have TCASII.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACFT ON FINAL APCH, UNDER TWR CTL, WAS OVERFLOWN BY ACFT OPERATING OUT OF NEARBY CLASS B AIRSPACE. CLASS B APCH CTLR DID NOT ADVISE TWR OF TFC.
Narrative: WE WERE BEING VECTORED FOR A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 25, AT ORL ARPT. AT ABOUT 8 MI E WE CALLED THE ARPT IN SIGHT, APCH CLRED US FOR A VISUAL TO RWY 25 AND TURNED US OVER TO THE TWR. UPON SWITCHING TO THE TWR WE WERE CLRED FOR A MODIFIED STRAIGHT-IN TO RWY 25. AT ABOUT A 4 MI FINAL AND ALT OF 1200 FT MSL, WE NOTICED TFC AT OUR 9-10 O'CLOCK POS, OPERATING IN CLASS B AIRSPACE JUST S OF OUR ACFT NBOUND AT ABOUT 1600 FT MSL. WE HAD VISUAL WITH THE ACFT BUT WERE SURPRISED TO SEE THE ACFT AT THAT POS. WE RECEIVED NO INDICATION FROM APCH THAT THE ACFT WOULD BE OPERATING IN THAT AREA. THE TWR DID CALL OUR ATTN TO THE ACFT AND WE ADVISED THAT WE HAD VISUAL WITH THE ACFT, AND HAD BEEN WATCHING THE TFC. AFTER LNDG I CALLED THE TWR ON THE PHONE AND TALKED WITH THE CTLR. HE STATED THAT HE HAD NOT BEEN ADVISED BY APCH THAT THE ACFT WOULD BE RETURNING TO A NBOUND HDG AT THAT ALT AND THAT HE WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THE ACFT. HE WENT ON TO SAY THAT HE HAD LAST OBSERVED THE ACFT SBOUND AT 2600 FT MSL. THE ACFT WAS A FLT CHK KING AIR. BE ALERT AT ALL TIMES -- SURE WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE TCASII.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.