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Aircraft waiting clearance on to runway was told by aircraft behind that an access panel was open on their aircraft fuselage. Reporter flight crew decided that, since they had no door lights, it probably was the outflow valve that the other aircraft saw and took off with the potable water access door open. Discovered after landing.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 335013 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199604 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lga |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : oak |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : holding ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1600 |
| ASRS Report | 335013 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Just prior to taking the runway for takeoff, aircraft behind us noticed an access panel open. The location indicated the outflow valve and no doors lights were on EICAS (none would be there for an open access panel). We proceeded to takeoff after telling the tower controller we felt it was the outflow valve. Upon arrival at pbi, I did my outside walkaround and noticed the potable water service access panel below the outflow valve was open. I believe it was probably what the other aircraft noticed. We were running 3 hours late and did a relatively quick turnaround. I did not notice the access panel open on my initial walkaround. I feel no danger was presented, but perhaps we should have returned to the ramp.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACFT WAITING CLRNC ON TO RWY WAS TOLD BY ACFT BEHIND THAT AN ACCESS PANEL WAS OPEN ON THEIR ACFT FUSELAGE. RPTR FLC DECIDED THAT, SINCE THEY HAD NO DOOR LIGHTS, IT PROBABLY WAS THE OUTFLOW VALVE THAT THE OTHER ACFT SAW AND TOOK OFF WITH THE POTABLE WATER ACCESS DOOR OPEN. DISCOVERED AFTER LNDG.
Narrative: JUST PRIOR TO TAKING THE RWY FOR TKOF, ACFT BEHIND US NOTICED AN ACCESS PANEL OPEN. THE LOCATION INDICATED THE OUTFLOW VALVE AND NO DOORS LIGHTS WERE ON EICAS (NONE WOULD BE THERE FOR AN OPEN ACCESS PANEL). WE PROCEEDED TO TKOF AFTER TELLING THE TWR CTLR WE FELT IT WAS THE OUTFLOW VALVE. UPON ARR AT PBI, I DID MY OUTSIDE WALKAROUND AND NOTICED THE POTABLE WATER SVC ACCESS PANEL BELOW THE OUTFLOW VALVE WAS OPEN. I BELIEVE IT WAS PROBABLY WHAT THE OTHER ACFT NOTICED. WE WERE RUNNING 3 HRS LATE AND DID A RELATIVELY QUICK TURNAROUND. I DID NOT NOTICE THE ACCESS PANEL OPEN ON MY INITIAL WALKAROUND. I FEEL NO DANGER WAS PRESENTED, BUT PERHAPS WE SHOULD HAVE RETURNED TO THE RAMP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.