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Attributes | |
ACN | 335397 |
Time | |
Date | 199605 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | SF 340A |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 30 |
ASRS Report | 335397 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 335607 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After being cleared for the visual approach for runway 24R into lax, we were told to contact the tower at the OM. When I contacted the tower, the controller told us we were cleared to land runway 24L. I acknowledged by replying 'cleared to land runway 24R.' (runway 24L is for departures and runway 24R is for arrs, normally.) not being sure if I heard him correctly, I waited for him to correct me in case I was wrong but he did not reply and he went on to talk to other aircraft. We continued to complete our prelndg checklist and landed on runway 24R. On our landing rollout we noticed 3 or 4 vehicles clearing the runway at the departure end of the runway about 1/2 to 1/4 mi down the runway from the point where we taxied off. They were no factor to safety and we taxied to the terminal without further incident. At no time were we told to switch or sidestep runways, which would have clarified the proper runway assignment and bring to our attention that our runway had been changed. Supplemental information from acn 335607: we were quite concerned that either we landed on the wrong runway or the controller had cleared us to the wrong runway. I should have insisted that my first officer clear up any ambiguity in runway assignment prior to landing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN SF34 COMMUTER FLC LANDED ON A CLOSED RWY AT LAX. THE APCH CTLR HAD ASSIGNED RWY 24R, BUT THE ATCT LCL CTLR ASSIGNED RWY 24L. THE PNF THOUGHT THAT THE ATCT CTLR WAS MISTAKEN BECAUSE TFC NORMALLY ARRIVED ON RWY 24R, SO THEY READ BACK RWY 24R AND LANDED ON RWY 24R. DURING THE LNDG, THE FLC NOTICED CONSTRUCTION EQUIP ON THE RWY.
Narrative: AFTER BEING CLRED FOR THE VISUAL APCH FOR RWY 24R INTO LAX, WE WERE TOLD TO CONTACT THE TWR AT THE OM. WHEN I CONTACTED THE TWR, THE CTLR TOLD US WE WERE CLRED TO LAND RWY 24L. I ACKNOWLEDGED BY REPLYING 'CLRED TO LAND RWY 24R.' (RWY 24L IS FOR DEPS AND RWY 24R IS FOR ARRS, NORMALLY.) NOT BEING SURE IF I HEARD HIM CORRECTLY, I WAITED FOR HIM TO CORRECT ME IN CASE I WAS WRONG BUT HE DID NOT REPLY AND HE WENT ON TO TALK TO OTHER ACFT. WE CONTINUED TO COMPLETE OUR PRELNDG CHKLIST AND LANDED ON RWY 24R. ON OUR LNDG ROLLOUT WE NOTICED 3 OR 4 VEHICLES CLRING THE RWY AT THE DEP END OF THE RWY ABOUT 1/2 TO 1/4 MI DOWN THE RWY FROM THE POINT WHERE WE TAXIED OFF. THEY WERE NO FACTOR TO SAFETY AND WE TAXIED TO THE TERMINAL WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. AT NO TIME WERE WE TOLD TO SWITCH OR SIDESTEP RWYS, WHICH WOULD HAVE CLARIFIED THE PROPER RWY ASSIGNMENT AND BRING TO OUR ATTN THAT OUR RWY HAD BEEN CHANGED. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 335607: WE WERE QUITE CONCERNED THAT EITHER WE LANDED ON THE WRONG RWY OR THE CTLR HAD CLRED US TO THE WRONG RWY. I SHOULD HAVE INSISTED THAT MY FO CLR UP ANY AMBIGUITY IN RWY ASSIGNMENT PRIOR TO LNDG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.