<< >> NASA ASRS Report 335503, May 1996

Training flight with two separate altdevs. Instructor had low time in aircraft and student inexperienced.

Attributes
ACN	335503
Time
Date	199605
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : gxb airport : iso
State Reference	NC
Altitude	msl bound lower : 2100 msl bound upper : 2500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : gsb
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other descent other
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 1230 flight time type : 3
ASRS Report	335503
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : private
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : far non adherence : clearance other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

First, I was working the radios and was cleared to 2100 ft MSL. Student while under the hood climbed to 2500 ft while I wasn't watching and working the radios. Approach questioned our altitude and we made an immediate descent to 2100 ft. Second, while being vectored for the VOR runway 23 at iso approach cleared us to 150 degree heading and 1800 ft. I missed the clearance while teaching the student what was happening on the approach. Student responded to approach with 'roger.' when I asked him what it was he responded with 1100 ft. At 1300 ft MSL approach questioned our altitude, after which I took controls and aggressively climbed to 1800 ft. I believe both sits may have been avoided if prior to the flight the student and I had gone over the approach, and emphasized the importance of reading back a clearance and maintaining altitude.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: TRAINING FLT WITH TWO SEPARATE ALTDEVS. INSTRUCTOR HAD LOW TIME IN ACFT AND STUDENT INEXPERIENCED.

Narrative: FIRST, I WAS WORKING THE RADIOS AND WAS CLRED TO 2100 FT MSL. STUDENT WHILE UNDER THE HOOD CLBED TO 2500 FT WHILE I WASN'T WATCHING AND WORKING THE RADIOS. APCH QUESTIONED OUR ALT AND WE MADE AN IMMEDIATE DSCNT TO 2100 FT. SECOND, WHILE BEING VECTORED FOR THE VOR RWY 23 AT ISO APCH CLRED US TO 150 DEG HDG AND 1800 FT. I MISSED THE CLRNC WHILE TEACHING THE STUDENT WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON THE APCH. STUDENT RESPONDED TO APCH WITH 'ROGER.' WHEN I ASKED HIM WHAT IT WAS HE RESPONDED WITH 1100 FT. AT 1300 FT MSL APCH QUESTIONED OUR ALT, AFTER WHICH I TOOK CTLS AND AGGRESSIVELY CLBED TO 1800 FT. I BELIEVE BOTH SITS MAY HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF PRIOR TO THE FLT THE STUDENT AND I HAD GONE OVER THE APCH, AND EMPHASIZED THE IMPORTANCE OF READING BACK A CLRNC AND MAINTAINING ALT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.