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Attributes | |
ACN | 335530 |
Time | |
Date | 199605 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2300 msl bound upper : 2300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 335530 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 335529 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On letdown to runway 36L at dfw at about 5000 ft MSL, approach changed us to runway 35C. Initially, vector heading looked ok but as we got closer to runway a heading of 020 degrees was given. This heading in combination with an east/northeast wind did not appear to be enough of a cut at final. The controller asked us about 3 times if we had the runway and we said yes each time. At the last min he then cleared us for the runway 35C ILS approach. I know that the controller was trying to move traffic as best he could, but this did not appear to us to work very well. Landing was executed without a problem.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: APCH CTLR, APPARENTLY TRYING TO EXPEDITE TFC, GAVE EXCESSIVE AND INAPPROPRIATE VECTORING TO RPTR FLC ON APCH.
Narrative: ON LETDOWN TO RWY 36L AT DFW AT ABOUT 5000 FT MSL, APCH CHANGED US TO RWY 35C. INITIALLY, VECTOR HDG LOOKED OK BUT AS WE GOT CLOSER TO RWY A HDG OF 020 DEGS WAS GIVEN. THIS HDG IN COMBINATION WITH AN E/NE WIND DID NOT APPEAR TO BE ENOUGH OF A CUT AT FINAL. THE CTLR ASKED US ABOUT 3 TIMES IF WE HAD THE RWY AND WE SAID YES EACH TIME. AT THE LAST MIN HE THEN CLRED US FOR THE RWY 35C ILS APCH. I KNOW THAT THE CTLR WAS TRYING TO MOVE TFC AS BEST HE COULD, BUT THIS DID NOT APPEAR TO US TO WORK VERY WELL. LNDG WAS EXECUTED WITHOUT A PROB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.