Flight crew of an small transport turboprop inadvertently penetrated a restr area.

Attributes
ACN	335767
Time
Date	199605
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : wjf
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 14500 msl bound upper : 14500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zla tracon : edw
Operator	other
Make Model Name	Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	cruise other
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	government other
Qualification	other other : other pilot : atp pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1600
ASRS Report	335767
Person 2
Affiliation	government other
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance flight crew : exited penetrated airspace other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

Departed ont VFR for fat. Socal approach approved VFR on course, we crossed directly over pmd on a heading of about 295 degrees then over wjf on about the same heading, the copilot and myself both felt we were clear of the restr area 2506 and the MOA bakersfield. The controller came on and said we were about to enter the restr area although the GPS indicated we were about 3-5 mi outside of the restr area. She suggested a 20-30 degree left turn to remain clear which we did, then a few mi later she said we were 'out' of the restr area and could resume our own navigation. We were confused because we were told to make the turn to remain clear. As I said the copilot and I both still think we were clear of the area as well as the GPS. In our capacity as a DOD contractor we enter this area all the time to go into edwards and china lake.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: FLC OF AN SMT TURBOPROP INADVERTENTLY PENETRATED A RESTR AREA.

Narrative: DEPARTED ONT VFR FOR FAT. SOCAL APCH APPROVED VFR ON COURSE, WE CROSSED DIRECTLY OVER PMD ON A HDG OF ABOUT 295 DEGS THEN OVER WJF ON ABOUT THE SAME HDG, THE COPLT AND MYSELF BOTH FELT WE WERE CLR OF THE RESTR AREA 2506 AND THE MOA BAKERSFIELD. THE CTLR CAME ON AND SAID WE WERE ABOUT TO ENTER THE RESTR AREA ALTHOUGH THE GPS INDICATED WE WERE ABOUT 3-5 MI OUTSIDE OF THE RESTR AREA. SHE SUGGESTED A 20-30 DEG L TURN TO REMAIN CLR WHICH WE DID, THEN A FEW MI LATER SHE SAID WE WERE 'OUT' OF THE RESTR AREA AND COULD RESUME OUR OWN NAV. WE WERE CONFUSED BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD TO MAKE THE TURN TO REMAIN CLR. AS I SAID THE COPLT AND I BOTH STILL THINK WE WERE CLR OF THE AREA AS WELL AS THE GPS. IN OUR CAPACITY AS A DOD CONTRACTOR WE ENTER THIS AREA ALL THE TIME TO GO INTO EDWARDS AND CHINA LAKE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.