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Associate radar controller at ARTCC reported a coordination and aircraft position anomaly with the R2901 range officer. Reporter stated that the range officer program is no longer a military duty and is civilian contracted. He also expressed concern that these contractors did not have adequate training to perform their duties.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 336559 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199605 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : phk airport : hst |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 21000 msl bound upper : 23000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zma |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | other : other |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure other |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Fighter |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : handoff position |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 4 |
| ASRS Report | 336559 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We worked 3 military flts off homestead to R2901 (restr area avon park, fl). The first flight was military 1 which could not fly IR34 due to WX, so went into the range VFR. When he entered the restr area we had another flight (military 2, 2 F16's) who stayed in the block 210b230 due to WX. The military 2 flight was near pahokee VOR (phk). The range control officer (which is contracted out) advised military 1 on range then said also military 2 flight on range. I advised range control officer that was negative that military 2 was still in our airspace and we were working him. Range control officer said, 'oh.' then we were working military 3 flight doing the same as previous 2. Range control officer called to advise that military 2 was on range then advised that military 3 was on range. I said again negative. We were working military 3, he was 20 mi from the range. Again he said, 'oh.' the FAA or military needs to send someone to train these people because they have no clue as to what's going on there.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ASSOCIATE RADAR CTLR AT ARTCC RPTED A COORD AND ACFT POS ANOMALY WITH THE R2901 RANGE OFFICER. RPTR STATED THAT THE RANGE OFFICER PROGRAM IS NO LONGER A MIL DUTY AND IS CIVILIAN CONTRACTED. HE ALSO EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT THESE CONTRACTORS DID NOT HAVE ADEQUATE TRAINING TO PERFORM THEIR DUTIES.
Narrative: WE WORKED 3 MIL FLTS OFF HOMESTEAD TO R2901 (RESTR AREA AVON PARK, FL). THE FIRST FLT WAS MIL 1 WHICH COULD NOT FLY IR34 DUE TO WX, SO WENT INTO THE RANGE VFR. WHEN HE ENTERED THE RESTR AREA WE HAD ANOTHER FLT (MIL 2, 2 F16'S) WHO STAYED IN THE BLOCK 210B230 DUE TO WX. THE MIL 2 FLT WAS NEAR PAHOKEE VOR (PHK). THE RANGE CTL OFFICER (WHICH IS CONTRACTED OUT) ADVISED MIL 1 ON RANGE THEN SAID ALSO MIL 2 FLT ON RANGE. I ADVISED RANGE CTL OFFICER THAT WAS NEGATIVE THAT MIL 2 WAS STILL IN OUR AIRSPACE AND WE WERE WORKING HIM. RANGE CTL OFFICER SAID, 'OH.' THEN WE WERE WORKING MIL 3 FLT DOING THE SAME AS PREVIOUS 2. RANGE CTL OFFICER CALLED TO ADVISE THAT MIL 2 WAS ON RANGE THEN ADVISED THAT MIL 3 WAS ON RANGE. I SAID AGAIN NEGATIVE. WE WERE WORKING MIL 3, HE WAS 20 MI FROM THE RANGE. AGAIN HE SAID, 'OH.' THE FAA OR MIL NEEDS TO SEND SOMEONE TO TRAIN THESE PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO CLUE AS TO WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.