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Attributes | |
ACN | 336644 |
Time | |
Date | 199605 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sea |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : sea |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 5400 flight time type : 1100 |
ASRS Report | 336644 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
The day of this event occurred after a 'reduced' rest overnight (ie, less than 8 hours rest). Leg 3 after reporting for duty at XA15 and continuing till XI50 with 5 legs to do after the 'reduced' rest. I had not slept well at all and I was feeling very tired and short on memory. The captain was flying and we were very heavy with a very aft center of gravity. The captain 'over-rotated' the aircraft and we were both surprised and taken by the pitch up we experienced. The captain then, due to the over rotation, forgot to call 'positive rate, gear up.' I forgot to back him up and were informed by sea tower that our gear 'appeared to be still down' upon clearance to change to departure control. We then selected gear up and changed to departure with no further incidents. I just remember feeling a bit frazzled from a quick takeoff clearance from the tower (typical regional airline handling at large airports to squeeze turboprops between heavy jets). I felt very burned out, tired, and worn out from lack of rest and multiple legs since an XB00 local time first flight. This event occurred at about XF30 local time. Also, a lack of the ground crew support. We were both amazed at the aft center of gravity. Sure, we did the weight and balance, but the captain never let me know exactly how tail heavy we were. (I, as first officer, set the trim for takeoff.) we were so busy at ramp we never had time to jointly discuss the captain's completed weight and balance manifest. Another example at how much work is delegated to the already too busy pilots of a regional airline. Load control from dispatch would help!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PF (CAPT) OVER ROTATED ON TKOF. FLC WAS SURPRISED BY APPARENT AFT CTR OF GRAVITY AND BOTH FORGOT TO RAISE THE GEAR AFTER TKOF. TWR CTLR BROUGHT IT TO THEIR ATTN. RPTR FO ATTRIBUTES FATIGUE AND DIFFICULT SCHEDULING AS CONTRIBUTING TO THEIR DETERIORATED AWARENESS.
Narrative: THE DAY OF THIS EVENT OCCURRED AFTER A 'REDUCED' REST OVERNIGHT (IE, LESS THAN 8 HRS REST). LEG 3 AFTER RPTING FOR DUTY AT XA15 AND CONTINUING TILL XI50 WITH 5 LEGS TO DO AFTER THE 'REDUCED' REST. I HAD NOT SLEPT WELL AT ALL AND I WAS FEELING VERY TIRED AND SHORT ON MEMORY. THE CAPT WAS FLYING AND WE WERE VERY HVY WITH A VERY AFT CTR OF GRAVITY. THE CAPT 'OVER-ROTATED' THE ACFT AND WE WERE BOTH SURPRISED AND TAKEN BY THE PITCH UP WE EXPERIENCED. THE CAPT THEN, DUE TO THE OVER ROTATION, FORGOT TO CALL 'POSITIVE RATE, GEAR UP.' I FORGOT TO BACK HIM UP AND WERE INFORMED BY SEA TWR THAT OUR GEAR 'APPEARED TO BE STILL DOWN' UPON CLRNC TO CHANGE TO DEP CTL. WE THEN SELECTED GEAR UP AND CHANGED TO DEP WITH NO FURTHER INCIDENTS. I JUST REMEMBER FEELING A BIT FRAZZLED FROM A QUICK TKOF CLRNC FROM THE TWR (TYPICAL REGIONAL AIRLINE HANDLING AT LARGE ARPTS TO SQUEEZE TURBOPROPS BTWN HVY JETS). I FELT VERY BURNED OUT, TIRED, AND WORN OUT FROM LACK OF REST AND MULTIPLE LEGS SINCE AN XB00 LCL TIME FIRST FLT. THIS EVENT OCCURRED AT ABOUT XF30 LCL TIME. ALSO, A LACK OF THE GND CREW SUPPORT. WE WERE BOTH AMAZED AT THE AFT CTR OF GRAVITY. SURE, WE DID THE WT AND BAL, BUT THE CAPT NEVER LET ME KNOW EXACTLY HOW TAIL HVY WE WERE. (I, AS FO, SET THE TRIM FOR TKOF.) WE WERE SO BUSY AT RAMP WE NEVER HAD TIME TO JOINTLY DISCUSS THE CAPT'S COMPLETED WT AND BAL MANIFEST. ANOTHER EXAMPLE AT HOW MUCH WORK IS DELEGATED TO THE ALREADY TOO BUSY PLTS OF A REGIONAL AIRLINE. LOAD CTL FROM DISPATCH WOULD HELP!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.