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Attributes | |
ACN | 337038 |
Time | |
Date | 199605 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : gjt |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5800 msl bound upper : 5800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : gjt tower : pkb |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Cessna 150 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Cessna 180 Skywagon |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 1870 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 337038 |
Person 2 | |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 50 vertical : 50 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Problem: near miss in traffic pattern with a lot of student pilots in the area and a controller not paying enough attention to movement of traffic. My student and I had been in the traffic pattern for several touch-and-goes already when the controller cleared a student pilot for takeoff for touch-and-goes in right traffic. We were in a C150 and had turned downwind and getting ready to level off at traffic pattern altitude when I looked to my right as the controller asked other traffic if they had us in sight. At this point it would have been too late if I had not looked to my right. The student pilot was in a C180 and was turning crosswind into downwind right into us. I abruptly nosed the C150 over to avoid contact. The other student did not see us until he was on our left, in the right downwind. Needless to say, this shook my student and I up quite a bit. I think it could have been prevented if the controller asked the C180 pilot if he had us in sight while he was on crosswind. Judging by the C180's climb performance and the lack of our C150's at this altitude, I knew there might be a problem, but I didn't see it until almost too late. If my student was soloing, there would have been a collision. He could not have seen the traffic very well simply because of where he was sitting -- in the left seat.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: INSTRUCTOR WITH SPI IN TFC PATTERN HAS NMAC WITH SECOND ACFT ON XWIND.
Narrative: PROB: NEAR MISS IN TFC PATTERN WITH A LOT OF STUDENT PLTS IN THE AREA AND A CTLR NOT PAYING ENOUGH ATTN TO MOVEMENT OF TFC. MY STUDENT AND I HAD BEEN IN THE TFC PATTERN FOR SEVERAL TOUCH-AND-GOES ALREADY WHEN THE CTLR CLRED A STUDENT PLT FOR TKOF FOR TOUCH-AND-GOES IN R TFC. WE WERE IN A C150 AND HAD TURNED DOWNWIND AND GETTING READY TO LEVEL OFF AT TFC PATTERN ALT WHEN I LOOKED TO MY R AS THE CTLR ASKED OTHER TFC IF THEY HAD US IN SIGHT. AT THIS POINT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TOO LATE IF I HAD NOT LOOKED TO MY R. THE STUDENT PLT WAS IN A C180 AND WAS TURNING XWIND INTO DOWNWIND RIGHT INTO US. I ABRUPTLY NOSED THE C150 OVER TO AVOID CONTACT. THE OTHER STUDENT DID NOT SEE US UNTIL HE WAS ON OUR L, IN THE R DOWNWIND. NEEDLESS TO SAY, THIS SHOOK MY STUDENT AND I UP QUITE A BIT. I THINK IT COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED IF THE CTLR ASKED THE C180 PLT IF HE HAD US IN SIGHT WHILE HE WAS ON XWIND. JUDGING BY THE C180'S CLB PERFORMANCE AND THE LACK OF OUR C150'S AT THIS ALT, I KNEW THERE MIGHT BE A PROB, BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT UNTIL ALMOST TOO LATE. IF MY STUDENT WAS SOLOING, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A COLLISION. HE COULD NOT HAVE SEEN THE TFC VERY WELL SIMPLY BECAUSE OF WHERE HE WAS SITTING -- IN THE L SEAT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.