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Attributes | |
ACN | 337844 |
Time | |
Date | 199606 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sgf |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 31000 msl bound upper : 31000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 50 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 337844 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 4200 |
ASRS Report | 337628 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : declared emergency none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Publication | Unspecified |
Narrative:
I departed stl in a DC9-50 with the APU 'B' fire warning loop light placarded inoperative. Just prior to reaching cruise altitude, the APU 'a' loop light and the APU fire warning light came on. The warning lights continued intermittently to go on and off. When the lights came on and remained on, I initiated the APU fire warning checklist which requires for the fire extinguisher to be discharged if the warning persists. Following discharge, the warnings continued intermittently as before. The checklist requires landing at nearest suitable airport if warning persists. Because of similar problems with the 'B' loop lights the previous leg and a logbook history of loop malfunctions, I believed the problem to be a malfunctioning loop system giving us a false warning and continued to my destination. Maintenance found the loop wire shorting to ground. The checklist should allow for judgement, experience, and common sense to be a factor in determining where to land. Mr X, an FAA inspector, in the jump seat observed the entire flight and concurred with my decision. Supplemental information from acn 337628: the APU 'a' loop illuminated along with the APU fire warning light and the master warning light. The APU had been off approximately 35-40 mins. The checklist was terminated to avoid exhausting the capability to provide fire extinguishing for the engines. Maintenance personnel confirmed that no fire or abnormal heat had occurred.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR DC9-50 HAD A FALSE FIRE WARNING ON ITS 'A' LOOP FOR THE APU. THE 'B' LOOP WAS INOP.
Narrative: I DEPARTED STL IN A DC9-50 WITH THE APU 'B' FIRE WARNING LOOP LIGHT PLACARDED INOP. JUST PRIOR TO REACHING CRUISE ALT, THE APU 'A' LOOP LIGHT AND THE APU FIRE WARNING LIGHT CAME ON. THE WARNING LIGHTS CONTINUED INTERMITTENTLY TO GO ON AND OFF. WHEN THE LIGHTS CAME ON AND REMAINED ON, I INITIATED THE APU FIRE WARNING CHKLIST WHICH REQUIRES FOR THE FIRE EXTINGUISHER TO BE DISCHARGED IF THE WARNING PERSISTS. FOLLOWING DISCHARGE, THE WARNINGS CONTINUED INTERMITTENTLY AS BEFORE. THE CHKLIST REQUIRES LNDG AT NEAREST SUITABLE ARPT IF WARNING PERSISTS. BECAUSE OF SIMILAR PROBS WITH THE 'B' LOOP LIGHTS THE PREVIOUS LEG AND A LOGBOOK HISTORY OF LOOP MALFUNCTIONS, I BELIEVED THE PROB TO BE A MALFUNCTIONING LOOP SYS GIVING US A FALSE WARNING AND CONTINUED TO MY DEST. MAINT FOUND THE LOOP WIRE SHORTING TO GND. THE CHKLIST SHOULD ALLOW FOR JUDGEMENT, EXPERIENCE, AND COMMON SENSE TO BE A FACTOR IN DETERMINING WHERE TO LAND. MR X, AN FAA INSPECTOR, IN THE JUMP SEAT OBSERVED THE ENTIRE FLT AND CONCURRED WITH MY DECISION. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 337628: THE APU 'A' LOOP ILLUMINATED ALONG WITH THE APU FIRE WARNING LIGHT AND THE MASTER WARNING LIGHT. THE APU HAD BEEN OFF APPROX 35-40 MINS. THE CHKLIST WAS TERMINATED TO AVOID EXHAUSTING THE CAPABILITY TO PROVIDE FIRE EXTINGUISHING FOR THE ENGS. MAINT PERSONNEL CONFIRMED THAT NO FIRE OR ABNORMAL HEAT HAD OCCURRED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.