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Air carrier medium large transport has an in-flight encounter with thunderstorm activity, asks for assistance in radar vectoring from ATC in proximity of warning area.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 338290 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199606 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : zjx |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 22000 msl bound upper : 26000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other other |
| Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 4500 |
| ASRS Report | 338290 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : provided flight assist flight crew : declared emergency flight crew : exited adverse environment other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Weather |
Narrative:
Flying darbs 1 arrival to tpa. Advised ATC of requirement to deviate for WX avoidance, told of conflicting aircraft but no problem for deviation off arrival prior to WX. Approximately 20 mi north of line ATC was readvised of our need to deviate and we were issued clearance to deviate west of course as necessary direct pie when able. Subsequent clearance was for a turn south to +/- 160 degree heading. This turn would put us in WX and was refused. We were advised of warning area. We offered to turn 180 degrees eastbound (reversing course) to proceed around east side of WX. We were advised to squawk 7700, we turned clockwise (away from WX) to an easterly heading then we were advised to turn back to west. We then proceeded +/-75 mi west of course around WX. If warning areas were hot ATC should have not given us a clearance to deviate west as necessary. Areas are 'intermittent' on chart by 'jax ATC' to whom we were talking.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG HAS AN INFLT ENCOUNTER WITH TSTM ACTIVITY, ASKS FOR ASSISTANCE IN RADAR VECTORING FROM ATC IN PROX OF WARNING AREA.
Narrative: FLYING DARBS 1 ARR TO TPA. ADVISED ATC OF REQUIREMENT TO DEVIATE FOR WX AVOIDANCE, TOLD OF CONFLICTING ACFT BUT NO PROB FOR DEV OFF ARR PRIOR TO WX. APPROX 20 MI N OF LINE ATC WAS READVISED OF OUR NEED TO DEVIATE AND WE WERE ISSUED CLRNC TO DEVIATE W OF COURSE AS NECESSARY DIRECT PIE WHEN ABLE. SUBSEQUENT CLRNC WAS FOR A TURN S TO +/- 160 DEG HDG. THIS TURN WOULD PUT US IN WX AND WAS REFUSED. WE WERE ADVISED OF WARNING AREA. WE OFFERED TO TURN 180 DEGS EBOUND (REVERSING COURSE) TO PROCEED AROUND E SIDE OF WX. WE WERE ADVISED TO SQUAWK 7700, WE TURNED CLOCKWISE (AWAY FROM WX) TO AN EASTERLY HDG THEN WE WERE ADVISED TO TURN BACK TO W. WE THEN PROCEEDED +/-75 MI W OF COURSE AROUND WX. IF WARNING AREAS WERE HOT ATC SHOULD HAVE NOT GIVEN US A CLRNC TO DEVIATE W AS NECESSARY. AREAS ARE 'INTERMITTENT' ON CHART BY 'JAX ATC' TO WHOM WE WERE TALKING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.