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Attributes | |
ACN | 339169 |
Time | |
Date | 199606 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pwt |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : bed |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing : missed approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Cessna Single Piston Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 1700 flight time type : 210 |
ASRS Report | 339169 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | other personnel other |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified cockpit |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 3000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I was flying a practice ILS runway 19 at pwt. Radar service was terminated at checo (FAF) and my safety pilot was announcing our position on CTAF to the traffic in the pattern. Runway 01 was in use. There was an opposite direction cessna in the pattern as well as a helicopter on the west ramp. The usual practice in this case is to advise the opposite direction traffic that the airplane on the ILS has them in sight, and will break off the approach early and sidestep to the east (the alternate missed approach is 070 degrees maintain 2000 ft). If the other aircraft doesn't acknowledge, then the approach will be broken off sooner rather than later for extra safety. In this case another voice broadcasted on CTAF that the airplane on final should check the runway. I was about a mi from the runway (the other aircraft had just lifted off) so I sidestepped to the east, and announced my intentions. This usually works well, but when someone other than the pilots of the airplanes involved starts broadcasting on CTAF it becomes confusing and unsafe. I think the unicom operator may be doing this but it really is obtrusive. I will not do opposite direction approachs at pwt until I can get this resolved.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: THE RPTR WAS CONDUCTING A PRACTICE ILS APCH TO RWY 19 WHILE THE VFR TFC PATTERN WAS USING RWY 01. THE ANNOUNCEMENTS WERE MADE AS THE RPTR UNDERSTOOD WAS CUSTOMARY AT THE ARPT FOR HIS ACTIVITY WHEN A PERSON BELIEVED BY THE RPTR TO BE THE UNICOM OPERATOR BROADCAST ON CTAF THAT THE PERSON ON FINAL ON RWY 19 SHOULD CHK THEIR RWY. THE RPTR SIDESTEPPED TO THE E AND ANNOUNCED HIS INTENTIONS. THE RPTR BELIEVED THE PERSON OTHER THAN THE PLTS BROADCASTING MADE THE ACTIVITY CONFUSING AND UNSAFE.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING A PRACTICE ILS RWY 19 AT PWT. RADAR SVC WAS TERMINATED AT CHECO (FAF) AND MY SAFETY PLT WAS ANNOUNCING OUR POS ON CTAF TO THE TFC IN THE PATTERN. RWY 01 WAS IN USE. THERE WAS AN OPPOSITE DIRECTION CESSNA IN THE PATTERN AS WELL AS A HELI ON THE W RAMP. THE USUAL PRACTICE IN THIS CASE IS TO ADVISE THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION TFC THAT THE AIRPLANE ON THE ILS HAS THEM IN SIGHT, AND WILL BREAK OFF THE APCH EARLY AND SIDESTEP TO THE E (THE ALTERNATE MISSED APCH IS 070 DEGS MAINTAIN 2000 FT). IF THE OTHER ACFT DOESN'T ACKNOWLEDGE, THEN THE APCH WILL BE BROKEN OFF SOONER RATHER THAN LATER FOR EXTRA SAFETY. IN THIS CASE ANOTHER VOICE BROADCASTED ON CTAF THAT THE AIRPLANE ON FINAL SHOULD CHK THE RWY. I WAS ABOUT A MI FROM THE RWY (THE OTHER ACFT HAD JUST LIFTED OFF) SO I SIDESTEPPED TO THE E, AND ANNOUNCED MY INTENTIONS. THIS USUALLY WORKS WELL, BUT WHEN SOMEONE OTHER THAN THE PLTS OF THE AIRPLANES INVOLVED STARTS BROADCASTING ON CTAF IT BECOMES CONFUSING AND UNSAFE. I THINK THE UNICOM OPERATOR MAY BE DOING THIS BUT IT REALLY IS OBTRUSIVE. I WILL NOT DO OPPOSITE DIRECTION APCHS AT PWT UNTIL I CAN GET THIS RESOLVED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.