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Attributes | |
ACN | 343075 |
Time | |
Date | 199608 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dtw |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 2250 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dtw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Merlin IIB |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 3950 flight time type : 1486 |
ASRS Report | 343075 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 343003 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 250 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We departed off runway 21 with an initial clearance to 4000 ft and heading 280 degrees. Tower requested us to keep the turn inside of the preceding DH8. We had the DH8 in sight and complied. I called for the after takeoff checklist and tower told us to switch to departure. The captain made the switch and we heard departure telling someone about traffic at an unknown altitude. We then noticed the DH8 turning towards us. I slowed the climb to avoid conflict with the DH8. The captain made the call to departure and advised him that we had the DH8 going over top and had leveled at 2000 ft. ATC told us to maintain 2000 ft. Next ATC advised us of traffic at 11-12 O'clock altitude unknown, not talking to anyone, climb and maintain 3000 ft. We started the climb and got the traffic in sight. The traffic was a single engine low wing. At 2300 ft we were converging so I pushed over to descend. The aircraft passed over top of us. At the closest point I would say we were with 250 ft vertical when he went over top of us. We advised ATC of the deviation. He asked us what altitude the aircraft was at and cleared us to 4000 ft. This same aircraft had busted tol airspace and apparently had gotten close to some other aircraft. We continued on to our destination without further incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SW3 AND AN SMA HAVE NMAC BELOW DTW TCA.
Narrative: WE DEPARTED OFF RWY 21 WITH AN INITIAL CLRNC TO 4000 FT AND HDG 280 DEGS. TWR REQUESTED US TO KEEP THE TURN INSIDE OF THE PRECEDING DH8. WE HAD THE DH8 IN SIGHT AND COMPLIED. I CALLED FOR THE AFTER TKOF CHKLIST AND TWR TOLD US TO SWITCH TO DEP. THE CAPT MADE THE SWITCH AND WE HEARD DEP TELLING SOMEONE ABOUT TFC AT AN UNKNOWN ALT. WE THEN NOTICED THE DH8 TURNING TOWARDS US. I SLOWED THE CLB TO AVOID CONFLICT WITH THE DH8. THE CAPT MADE THE CALL TO DEP AND ADVISED HIM THAT WE HAD THE DH8 GOING OVER TOP AND HAD LEVELED AT 2000 FT. ATC TOLD US TO MAINTAIN 2000 FT. NEXT ATC ADVISED US OF TFC AT 11-12 O'CLOCK ALT UNKNOWN, NOT TALKING TO ANYONE, CLB AND MAINTAIN 3000 FT. WE STARTED THE CLB AND GOT THE TFC IN SIGHT. THE TFC WAS A SINGLE ENG LOW WING. AT 2300 FT WE WERE CONVERGING SO I PUSHED OVER TO DSND. THE ACFT PASSED OVER TOP OF US. AT THE CLOSEST POINT I WOULD SAY WE WERE WITH 250 FT VERT WHEN HE WENT OVER TOP OF US. WE ADVISED ATC OF THE DEV. HE ASKED US WHAT ALT THE ACFT WAS AT AND CLRED US TO 4000 FT. THIS SAME ACFT HAD BUSTED TOL AIRSPACE AND APPARENTLY HAD GOTTEN CLOSE TO SOME OTHER ACFT. WE CONTINUED ON TO OUR DEST WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.