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Widebody transport cleared to cross 12 mi south fim at 12000 ft. As a result of fatigue, captain, PF, crossed the fix at 16000 ft. Controller queried the flight crew if they were turning. In expediting the descent and turn got an RA. No conflict.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 343594 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199608 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : fim airport : lax |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 16000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax tower : msp |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B747 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 12000 |
| ASRS Report | 343594 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 155 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 1500 |
| ASRS Report | 343590 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Sadde 6 arrival. Were 4000 ft high at altitude restr. I crosschecked the captain with 30 mi to crossing restr and everything was ok, making the restr with no problem 12 mi south of fim at 12000 ft, 280 KIAS. I did some other things and looked up and we were at 16000 ft crossing the restr. Everyone was distracted at that point and then we were late for our turn to vtu. Approach called us if we were turning, we were, just late. Hurrying down to 10000 ft, we had an RA with an aircraft restr below us at 9000 ft. Not a good day. We leveled off at 10000 ft, no problem with the traffic. Supplemental information from acn 343590: I was tired and misread my descent rate earlier in the approach and recognized the situation too late.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WDB CLRED TO CROSS 12 MI S FIM AT 12000 FT. AS A RESULT OF FATIGUE, CAPT, PF, CROSSED THE FIX AT 16000 FT. CTLR QUERIED THE FLC IF THEY WERE TURNING. IN EXPEDITING THE DSCNT AND TURN GOT AN RA. NO CONFLICT.
Narrative: SADDE 6 ARR. WERE 4000 FT HIGH AT ALT RESTR. I XCHKED THE CAPT WITH 30 MI TO XING RESTR AND EVERYTHING WAS OK, MAKING THE RESTR WITH NO PROB 12 MI S OF FIM AT 12000 FT, 280 KIAS. I DID SOME OTHER THINGS AND LOOKED UP AND WE WERE AT 16000 FT XING THE RESTR. EVERYONE WAS DISTRACTED AT THAT POINT AND THEN WE WERE LATE FOR OUR TURN TO VTU. APCH CALLED US IF WE WERE TURNING, WE WERE, JUST LATE. HURRYING DOWN TO 10000 FT, WE HAD AN RA WITH AN ACFT RESTR BELOW US AT 9000 FT. NOT A GOOD DAY. WE LEVELED OFF AT 10000 FT, NO PROB WITH THE TFC. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 343590: I WAS TIRED AND MISREAD MY DSCNT RATE EARLIER IN THE APCH AND RECOGNIZED THE SIT TOO LATE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.