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An air carrier flight crew goes into position on runway 28L after being told to hold short. A J3 had to go around.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 344090 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199608 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : boi |
| State Reference | ID |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | J3 Cub |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 344090 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | other other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 1000 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Cleared to cross runway 28R taxi and hold short of runway 28L. We taxied to runway 28L and into position. A J3 had to go around. My captain was so busy and talkative about the F4's on the ramp he misunderstood the taxi clearance. My head was down with the ACARS, I looked up and cleared final, saw no one. Now we taxied into position as tower sent the J3 around. Contributing factors: lack of sterile cockpit and me not telling my captain to hush up as well as not asking tower if we were clrd 'into position' or not. Factors affecting, my captain knows 'all' and any input from a first officer is not really heard. Therefore, I became more reserved, rather than more aggressive when not sure of our situation. 'Not again.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR FLC GOES INTO POS ON RWY 28L AFTER BEING TOLD TO HOLD SHORT. A J3 HAD TO GAR.
Narrative: CLRED TO CROSS RWY 28R TAXI AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 28L. WE TAXIED TO RWY 28L AND INTO POS. A J3 HAD TO GAR. MY CAPT WAS SO BUSY AND TALKATIVE ABOUT THE F4'S ON THE RAMP HE MISUNDERSTOOD THE TAXI CLRNC. MY HEAD WAS DOWN WITH THE ACARS, I LOOKED UP AND CLRED FINAL, SAW NO ONE. NOW WE TAXIED INTO POS AS TWR SENT THE J3 AROUND. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: LACK OF STERILE COCKPIT AND ME NOT TELLING MY CAPT TO HUSH UP AS WELL AS NOT ASKING TWR IF WE WERE CLRD 'INTO POS' OR NOT. FACTORS AFFECTING, MY CAPT KNOWS 'ALL' AND ANY INPUT FROM A FO IS NOT REALLY HEARD. THEREFORE, I BECAME MORE RESERVED, RATHER THAN MORE AGGRESSIVE WHEN NOT SURE OF OUR SIT. 'NOT AGAIN.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.