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An air carrier flight crew was delayed more than 2 hours because of a mechanical problem with the aircraft. Their flight plan dropped out of the air traffic system after 2 hours and nobody remembered to refile it. This was discovered after takeoff and the flight plan was refiled in the air.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 346130 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199608 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
| State Reference | TX |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw tracon : dfw |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Fokker 100 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : takeoff cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 346130 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| ASRS Report | 346129 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Flight was to depart dfw to msp at XA23Z. Because of a mechanical delay we departed the gate at XC06Z and were off at XC43Z. When we contacted departure control they had no record of us. We had a pre departure clearance clearance from ACARS that we got just before gate departure. After much discussion with departure control and ZFW we finally got our flight plan back in the system. Apparently our flight plan timed out at XC23Z, between our out and off event. Is it our responsibility to keep it updated or the company's?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR FLC WAS DELAYED MORE THAN 2 HRS BECAUSE OF A MECHANICAL PROB WITH THE ACFT. THEIR FLT PLAN DROPPED OUT OF THE AIR TFC SYS AFTER 2 HRS AND NOBODY REMEMBERED TO REFILE IT. THIS WAS DISCOVERED AFTER TKOF AND THE FLT PLAN WAS REFILED IN THE AIR.
Narrative: FLT WAS TO DEPART DFW TO MSP AT XA23Z. BECAUSE OF A MECHANICAL DELAY WE DEPARTED THE GATE AT XC06Z AND WERE OFF AT XC43Z. WHEN WE CONTACTED DEP CTL THEY HAD NO RECORD OF US. WE HAD A PDC CLRNC FROM ACARS THAT WE GOT JUST BEFORE GATE DEP. AFTER MUCH DISCUSSION WITH DEP CTL AND ZFW WE FINALLY GOT OUR FLT PLAN BACK IN THE SYS. APPARENTLY OUR FLT PLAN TIMED OUT AT XC23Z, BTWN OUR OUT AND OFF EVENT. IS IT OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP IT UPDATED OR THE COMPANY'S?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.