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Attributes | |
ACN | 347480 |
Time | |
Date | 199609 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : ldn airport : w45 |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : iad |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | M-20 J (201) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors enroute airway : iad |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 24 flight time total : 220 flight time type : 82 |
ASRS Report | 347480 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : exited adverse environment other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error other |
Narrative:
Flying on V3 at 6000 ft toward luray airport (W45) received clearance descent to 5000 ft, then vector of 190 degrees. Read back 190 degree left turn, no correction was given. Then received descend maintain 4000 ft readback, expect change of vector back away from mountain. Did not receive change of vector, so I informed ATC that 4000 ft would put me into the terrain. He then gave heading of, I believe, 340 degrees. This turned me away from mountains and toward the valley. He then informed me that W45 was 3 mi at 12 O'clock. It was actually 13 mi away. My LORAN showed 13 mi. He asked if I had runway in sight. I did not, but told him I could proceed visual, he then told me to cancel IFR plan on ground by calling dulles approach. I asked if I could cancel through FSS. He said he would rather I cancel direct to ATC. I would have flown into mountain if I was IMC. I think he was looking at wrong plane on scope. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter called back and stated that he had not been properly idented by the approach controller. He had been given the turn and the descent prior to any formal identify procedure, which had been based solely on his destination airport and proximity to the VOR. Reporter spoke with iad supervisor who was with quality assurance. She pulled the tape and said it was an operational error. Controller was pulled off position for 6 months for retraining.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CFIT A POSSIBILITY, HAD SMA PLT NOT SPOKEN UP AND ADVISED THE APCH CTLR OF THE IMPROPER HDG ALT GIVEN IN DSCNT CLRNC DURING RADAR VECTORING.
Narrative: FLYING ON V3 AT 6000 FT TOWARD LURAY ARPT (W45) RECEIVED CLRNC DSCNT TO 5000 FT, THEN VECTOR OF 190 DEGS. READ BACK 190 DEG L TURN, NO CORRECTION WAS GIVEN. THEN RECEIVED DSND MAINTAIN 4000 FT READBACK, EXPECT CHANGE OF VECTOR BACK AWAY FROM MOUNTAIN. DID NOT RECEIVE CHANGE OF VECTOR, SO I INFORMED ATC THAT 4000 FT WOULD PUT ME INTO THE TERRAIN. HE THEN GAVE HDG OF, I BELIEVE, 340 DEGS. THIS TURNED ME AWAY FROM MOUNTAINS AND TOWARD THE VALLEY. HE THEN INFORMED ME THAT W45 WAS 3 MI AT 12 O'CLOCK. IT WAS ACTUALLY 13 MI AWAY. MY LORAN SHOWED 13 MI. HE ASKED IF I HAD RWY IN SIGHT. I DID NOT, BUT TOLD HIM I COULD PROCEED VISUAL, HE THEN TOLD ME TO CANCEL IFR PLAN ON GND BY CALLING DULLES APCH. I ASKED IF I COULD CANCEL THROUGH FSS. HE SAID HE WOULD RATHER I CANCEL DIRECT TO ATC. I WOULD HAVE FLOWN INTO MOUNTAIN IF I WAS IMC. I THINK HE WAS LOOKING AT WRONG PLANE ON SCOPE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR CALLED BACK AND STATED THAT HE HAD NOT BEEN PROPERLY IDENTED BY THE APCH CTLR. HE HAD BEEN GIVEN THE TURN AND THE DSCNT PRIOR TO ANY FORMAL IDENT PROC, WHICH HAD BEEN BASED SOLELY ON HIS DEST ARPT AND PROX TO THE VOR. RPTR SPOKE WITH IAD SUPVR WHO WAS WITH QUALITY ASSURANCE. SHE PULLED THE TAPE AND SAID IT WAS AN OPERROR. CTLR WAS PULLED OFF POS FOR 6 MONTHS FOR RETRAINING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.