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Attributes | |
ACN | 347520 |
Time | |
Date | 199609 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : djb |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | HS 125 Series 1-600 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 164 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 347520 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 10050 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 347030 |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
ATC, ZOB, cleared us to cross junka intersection at 8000 ft. PNF read back clearance, PF (me) set 8000 ft into altitude preselect, and PNF confirmed setting was correct. After completing descent, an irate controller demanded to know our altitude stating we were cleared to 10000 ft. We promptly informed him of his error. Unknowingly, the controller failed to release his push- to-talk switch and we heard him tell detroit approach on the phone that he had cleared us to 10000 ft and we went to 8000 ft on our own. Fortunately, no conflict occurred. Detroit approach made no comments about the incident.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ARTCC RADAR CTLR CLRED AN HS125 CPR FLC TO 8000 FT, BUT APPARENTLY MEANT TO CLR THEM TO 10000 FT. THE CTLR BECAME IRATE WHEN HE REALIZED WHAT HAD HAPPENED.
Narrative: ATC, ZOB, CLRED US TO CROSS JUNKA INTXN AT 8000 FT. PNF READ BACK CLRNC, PF (ME) SET 8000 FT INTO ALT PRESELECT, AND PNF CONFIRMED SETTING WAS CORRECT. AFTER COMPLETING DSCNT, AN IRATE CTLR DEMANDED TO KNOW OUR ALT STATING WE WERE CLRED TO 10000 FT. WE PROMPTLY INFORMED HIM OF HIS ERROR. UNKNOWINGLY, THE CTLR FAILED TO RELEASE HIS PUSH- TO-TALK SWITCH AND WE HEARD HIM TELL DETROIT APCH ON THE PHONE THAT HE HAD CLRED US TO 10000 FT AND WE WENT TO 8000 FT ON OUR OWN. FORTUNATELY, NO CONFLICT OCCURRED. DETROIT APCH MADE NO COMMENTS ABOUT THE INCIDENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.