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Attributes | |
ACN | 349010 |
Time | |
Date | 199609 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : 6w6 |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 730 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 349010 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I flew from laurel, de, N06 to 6W to fly skydivers. During the day I had to deal with ZNY controllers who were very rude. This guy asked me where I was, and I said 6w6. He asked if it was near some IFR intersection. I told him I didn't know, as I was the new guy there. He replied, 'well, if you don't know where you are, then I certainly don't know where you are either.' he continued to harass other pilots, and he had a sarcastic comment to make to each of them. When I first arrived in hanover, I was unable to find the small grass strip, so I asked for a vector. He said I was close, airport at 11 O'clock and 2 mi, and I landed at what turned out to be a closed airport on the east side of town. I had no damage to the aircraft, except for some grass that I plowed through, as it hadn't been mowed in a long time. I feel that this nyc controller's bad attitude helped to cause this error, and helped to decrease the safety of all of the flts he was working. It also caused me to discontinue calling him, as I had no VOR aboard to identify the intersection he asked me about. At one point, I saw a B757 about 1000 ft above me, which was never called to me as traffic since the controller refused to work with me. He did know where I was, as he said 'the aircraft squawking XXXX is in bwi's airspace, and should be talking to them.' I knew this, as bwi controled the lower altitudes, but they told me to call ZNY when I got above their airspace. I wish I had asked him for his name, and I would have called the center manager. I hope someone else did, as this guy was a dangerous, arrogant jerk.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SKYDIVING PLT COMPLAINT ABOUT ARTCC RADAR CTLR'S RUDE ATTITUDE AND LACK OF HELP.
Narrative: I FLEW FROM LAUREL, DE, N06 TO 6W TO FLY SKYDIVERS. DURING THE DAY I HAD TO DEAL WITH ZNY CTLRS WHO WERE VERY RUDE. THIS GUY ASKED ME WHERE I WAS, AND I SAID 6W6. HE ASKED IF IT WAS NEAR SOME IFR INTXN. I TOLD HIM I DIDN'T KNOW, AS I WAS THE NEW GUY THERE. HE REPLIED, 'WELL, IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU ARE, THEN I CERTAINLY DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU ARE EITHER.' HE CONTINUED TO HARASS OTHER PLTS, AND HE HAD A SARCASTIC COMMENT TO MAKE TO EACH OF THEM. WHEN I FIRST ARRIVED IN HANOVER, I WAS UNABLE TO FIND THE SMALL GRASS STRIP, SO I ASKED FOR A VECTOR. HE SAID I WAS CLOSE, ARPT AT 11 O'CLOCK AND 2 MI, AND I LANDED AT WHAT TURNED OUT TO BE A CLOSED ARPT ON THE E SIDE OF TOWN. I HAD NO DAMAGE TO THE ACFT, EXCEPT FOR SOME GRASS THAT I PLOWED THROUGH, AS IT HADN'T BEEN MOWED IN A LONG TIME. I FEEL THAT THIS NYC CTLR'S BAD ATTITUDE HELPED TO CAUSE THIS ERROR, AND HELPED TO DECREASE THE SAFETY OF ALL OF THE FLTS HE WAS WORKING. IT ALSO CAUSED ME TO DISCONTINUE CALLING HIM, AS I HAD NO VOR ABOARD TO IDENT THE INTXN HE ASKED ME ABOUT. AT ONE POINT, I SAW A B757 ABOUT 1000 FT ABOVE ME, WHICH WAS NEVER CALLED TO ME AS TFC SINCE THE CTLR REFUSED TO WORK WITH ME. HE DID KNOW WHERE I WAS, AS HE SAID 'THE ACFT SQUAWKING XXXX IS IN BWI'S AIRSPACE, AND SHOULD BE TALKING TO THEM.' I KNEW THIS, AS BWI CTLED THE LOWER ALTS, BUT THEY TOLD ME TO CALL ZNY WHEN I GOT ABOVE THEIR AIRSPACE. I WISH I HAD ASKED HIM FOR HIS NAME, AND I WOULD HAVE CALLED THE CTR MGR. I HOPE SOMEONE ELSE DID, AS THIS GUY WAS A DANGEROUS, ARROGANT JERK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.