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Attributes | |
ACN | 349931 |
Time | |
Date | 199610 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pdk |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : atl |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Cessna 152 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Cessna Aircraft Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 45 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 349931 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 100 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I passed over another cessna about 20-60 seconds after turning from east to north. The other cessna passed below and from right to left. Traffic is difficult to spot when below. Alternating landing lights flashing would have been helpful. The cityscape obscured. My scan may have been affected by photographing, but I did look before turning. While carrying a camera while alone was not wise, spotting the other airplane would have been a combination of full time scanning for traffic and luck. Seeing other aircraft below you is very difficult in a cityscape backgnd. Strobes or other lights would help considerably. Pilots sightseeing can relax traffic scans. Contributing to the risk is the creation of airspace zones restricting VFR sightseeing flts to narrow altitude bands. Immediately south of the atlanta skyscrapers, and over the skyscrapers, the altitude must be 3100 ft to 3500 ft MSL. That does not include being 'at an altitude should a power unit fail, an emergency landing without undue hazard to persons or property on the surface' or related 'careless and reckless' considerations. Yet single engine sightseeing grows over atlanta as touring and biplane operators grow.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C152 HAS AN NMAC WITH ANOTHER CESSNA IN THE ATL AREA.
Narrative: I PASSED OVER ANOTHER CESSNA ABOUT 20-60 SECONDS AFTER TURNING FROM E TO N. THE OTHER CESSNA PASSED BELOW AND FROM R TO L. TFC IS DIFFICULT TO SPOT WHEN BELOW. ALTERNATING LNDG LIGHTS FLASHING WOULD HAVE BEEN HELPFUL. THE CITYSCAPE OBSCURED. MY SCAN MAY HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY PHOTOGRAPHING, BUT I DID LOOK BEFORE TURNING. WHILE CARRYING A CAMERA WHILE ALONE WAS NOT WISE, SPOTTING THE OTHER AIRPLANE WOULD HAVE BEEN A COMBINATION OF FULL TIME SCANNING FOR TFC AND LUCK. SEEING OTHER ACFT BELOW YOU IS VERY DIFFICULT IN A CITYSCAPE BACKGND. STROBES OR OTHER LIGHTS WOULD HELP CONSIDERABLY. PLTS SIGHTSEEING CAN RELAX TFC SCANS. CONTRIBUTING TO THE RISK IS THE CREATION OF AIRSPACE ZONES RESTRICTING VFR SIGHTSEEING FLTS TO NARROW ALT BANDS. IMMEDIATELY S OF THE ATLANTA SKYSCRAPERS, AND OVER THE SKYSCRAPERS, THE ALT MUST BE 3100 FT TO 3500 FT MSL. THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE BEING 'AT AN ALT SHOULD A PWR UNIT FAIL, AN EMER LNDG WITHOUT UNDUE HAZARD TO PERSONS OR PROPERTY ON THE SURFACE' OR RELATED 'CARELESS AND RECKLESS' CONSIDERATIONS. YET SINGLE ENG SIGHTSEEING GROWS OVER ATLANTA AS TOURING AND BIPLANE OPERATORS GROW.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.