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Attributes | |
ACN | 349968 |
Time | |
Date | 199610 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : eos |
State Reference | MO |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 349968 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Cleared on J181 from eos to bdf. We flew the 042 degree radial out of eos past the intersection of the sgf 032 degree radial. Center gave us a vector back to the airway and said it happens all the time, no problem. Flipping from HI2 to HI1, J181 seems to continue straight from eos to bdf. On HI1, the bottom of the line representing the airway points to the name neosho and its frequency. The different course of 032 degrees is small and hard to catch. Springfield and its frequency are off to the right. The intersecting radials only show up on HI4. A note would avoid the confusion. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter states that the chart does not show a complete course on the HI2 then HI1 chart continuation. Even including the HI4 chart makes a very confusing route presentation. Reporter remembers thinking that this routing is very confusing and felt it had to be shown elsewhere. He looked at HI4 and then found the rest of the route, but the heading change at ulman is not very clear. Reporter feels that the chart should be expanded to give a clrer picture of the route change at the intersection. Lacking that possibility there should definitely be a note referencing the heading change on the chart border. Just something to alert the pilots that a change will occur.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: S80 FLC HAS HDG DEV DUE TO POOR CHART INFO WHEN CHANGING FROM ONE HI ALT CHART TO ANOTHER.
Narrative: CLRED ON J181 FROM EOS TO BDF. WE FLEW THE 042 DEG RADIAL OUT OF EOS PAST THE INTXN OF THE SGF 032 DEG RADIAL. CTR GAVE US A VECTOR BACK TO THE AIRWAY AND SAID IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME, NO PROB. FLIPPING FROM HI2 TO HI1, J181 SEEMS TO CONTINUE STRAIGHT FROM EOS TO BDF. ON HI1, THE BOTTOM OF THE LINE REPRESENTING THE AIRWAY POINTS TO THE NAME NEOSHO AND ITS FREQ. THE DIFFERENT COURSE OF 032 DEGS IS SMALL AND HARD TO CATCH. SPRINGFIELD AND ITS FREQ ARE OFF TO THE R. THE INTERSECTING RADIALS ONLY SHOW UP ON HI4. A NOTE WOULD AVOID THE CONFUSION. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATES THAT THE CHART DOES NOT SHOW A COMPLETE COURSE ON THE HI2 THEN HI1 CHART CONTINUATION. EVEN INCLUDING THE HI4 CHART MAKES A VERY CONFUSING RTE PRESENTATION. RPTR REMEMBERS THINKING THAT THIS ROUTING IS VERY CONFUSING AND FELT IT HAD TO BE SHOWN ELSEWHERE. HE LOOKED AT HI4 AND THEN FOUND THE REST OF THE RTE, BUT THE HDG CHANGE AT ULMAN IS NOT VERY CLR. RPTR FEELS THAT THE CHART SHOULD BE EXPANDED TO GIVE A CLRER PICTURE OF THE RTE CHANGE AT THE INTXN. LACKING THAT POSSIBILITY THERE SHOULD DEFINITELY BE A NOTE REFING THE HDG CHANGE ON THE CHART BORDER. JUST SOMETHING TO ALERT THE PLTS THAT A CHANGE WILL OCCUR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.