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Attributes | |
ACN | 350476 |
Time | |
Date | 199610 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : phl |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : evv |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 1750 |
ASRS Report | 350476 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
The flight release indicated a gate release fuel load of 50300 pounds which appeared to be a normal fuel load for our 5 hour plus flight to lax, with ont/san as alternate airports. The captain indicated that we would have a 'light' load for this flight, which I interpreted as meaning not very many passenger, so the fuel load seemed very appropriate, as we would be able to climb to FL390 for much of our flight west. As is typical, just prior to closing up and pushing back off the gate, the customer service agent informed us of our passenger count of 143 passenger. I did not think that this was a very 'light' load, but continued on with the preflight procedures. Our final weight and balance figures would be sent to us over our ACARS and we would be able to verify all of the final figures when we received this information. It is typical for us to leave the gate and taxi out prior to receiving this information. At this time, we had our required gate release fuel (50300 pounds) on board the aircraft, in accordance with the flight release. As we taxied out for takeoff on runway 27L at phl, we were about #15 or so for takeoff and were stationary on the taxiway, awaiting our weight and balance information. When we received our final weight and balance information over the ACARS, it indicated a takeoff weight of approximately 220000 pounds which was considerably higher than what our dispatcher had calculated on the flight release and I told the captain that we were about 24000 pounds heavier than previously planned for takeoff and that we would have to take a look at the fuel required for this heavier weight. After I entered the data into the FMC, it also advised us that we had 'insufficient fuel.' (the FMC had calculated more fuel burn based on heavier weights, and lower cruise altitude.) I then called our load planners on the radio and asked them to call our dispatcher and have him figure a new fuel load for this heavier takeoff weight. We had already figured out that because of this 24000 pound increase in our gross weight, that we did not have sufficient fuel for the flight as previously planned with our alternates as indicated. Our dispatcher first sent us a revised fuel burn for our new weight and then sent us a new gate release fuel, and a new takeoff minimum fuel. The new gate release fuel was 55700 pounds and I think the takeoff minimum fuel was about 53700 pounds, which was more than we then had on board the aircraft. It was determined that additional fuel must be added for our flight, and that we needed to taxi back to the gate. We then informed the tower that we needed to return to the gate for additional fuel, received taxi clearance for this and returned to the gate. At the gate, the aircraft was then refueled, and we then left for our uneventful flight to lax.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR ACFT WAS RELEASED FROM THE GATE WITH INSUFFICIENT FUEL FOR THE TRIP.
Narrative: THE FLT RELEASE INDICATED A GATE RELEASE FUEL LOAD OF 50300 LBS WHICH APPEARED TO BE A NORMAL FUEL LOAD FOR OUR 5 HR PLUS FLT TO LAX, WITH ONT/SAN AS ALTERNATE ARPTS. THE CAPT INDICATED THAT WE WOULD HAVE A 'LIGHT' LOAD FOR THIS FLT, WHICH I INTERPRETED AS MEANING NOT VERY MANY PAX, SO THE FUEL LOAD SEEMED VERY APPROPRIATE, AS WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CLB TO FL390 FOR MUCH OF OUR FLT W. AS IS TYPICAL, JUST PRIOR TO CLOSING UP AND PUSHING BACK OFF THE GATE, THE CUSTOMER SVC AGENT INFORMED US OF OUR PAX COUNT OF 143 PAX. I DID NOT THINK THAT THIS WAS A VERY 'LIGHT' LOAD, BUT CONTINUED ON WITH THE PREFLT PROCS. OUR FINAL WT AND BAL FIGURES WOULD BE SENT TO US OVER OUR ACARS AND WE WOULD BE ABLE TO VERIFY ALL OF THE FINAL FIGURES WHEN WE RECEIVED THIS INFO. IT IS TYPICAL FOR US TO LEAVE THE GATE AND TAXI OUT PRIOR TO RECEIVING THIS INFO. AT THIS TIME, WE HAD OUR REQUIRED GATE RELEASE FUEL (50300 LBS) ON BOARD THE ACFT, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FLT RELEASE. AS WE TAXIED OUT FOR TKOF ON RWY 27L AT PHL, WE WERE ABOUT #15 OR SO FOR TKOF AND WERE STATIONARY ON THE TXWY, AWAITING OUR WT AND BAL INFO. WHEN WE RECEIVED OUR FINAL WT AND BAL INFO OVER THE ACARS, IT INDICATED A TKOF WT OF APPROX 220000 LBS WHICH WAS CONSIDERABLY HIGHER THAN WHAT OUR DISPATCHER HAD CALCULATED ON THE FLT RELEASE AND I TOLD THE CAPT THAT WE WERE ABOUT 24000 LBS HEAVIER THAN PREVIOUSLY PLANNED FOR TKOF AND THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE FUEL REQUIRED FOR THIS HEAVIER WT. AFTER I ENTERED THE DATA INTO THE FMC, IT ALSO ADVISED US THAT WE HAD 'INSUFFICIENT FUEL.' (THE FMC HAD CALCULATED MORE FUEL BURN BASED ON HEAVIER WTS, AND LOWER CRUISE ALT.) I THEN CALLED OUR LOAD PLANNERS ON THE RADIO AND ASKED THEM TO CALL OUR DISPATCHER AND HAVE HIM FIGURE A NEW FUEL LOAD FOR THIS HEAVIER TKOF WT. WE HAD ALREADY FIGURED OUT THAT BECAUSE OF THIS 24000 LB INCREASE IN OUR GROSS WT, THAT WE DID NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT FUEL FOR THE FLT AS PREVIOUSLY PLANNED WITH OUR ALTERNATES AS INDICATED. OUR DISPATCHER FIRST SENT US A REVISED FUEL BURN FOR OUR NEW WT AND THEN SENT US A NEW GATE RELEASE FUEL, AND A NEW TKOF MINIMUM FUEL. THE NEW GATE RELEASE FUEL WAS 55700 LBS AND I THINK THE TKOF MINIMUM FUEL WAS ABOUT 53700 LBS, WHICH WAS MORE THAN WE THEN HAD ON BOARD THE ACFT. IT WAS DETERMINED THAT ADDITIONAL FUEL MUST BE ADDED FOR OUR FLT, AND THAT WE NEEDED TO TAXI BACK TO THE GATE. WE THEN INFORMED THE TWR THAT WE NEEDED TO RETURN TO THE GATE FOR ADDITIONAL FUEL, RECEIVED TAXI CLRNC FOR THIS AND RETURNED TO THE GATE. AT THE GATE, THE ACFT WAS THEN REFUELED, AND WE THEN LEFT FOR OUR UNEVENTFUL FLT TO LAX.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.