LR35A captain intimidated to take an all night passenger flight without adequate rest.

Attributes
ACN	351200
Time
Date	199610
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ugn
State Reference	IL
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air taxi
Make Model Name	Learjet 35
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 135
Flight Phase	ground : preflight
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air taxi
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 700
ASRS Report	351200
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air taxi
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : unable
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

This problem is a common occurrence, however since I have no union representation I am unsure of any other reporting options. On this day xyz (ugn) attempted to intimidate to me into flying a 135 trip from ugn-pwk-dal-arrival-ase over a period of 14 hours. The flight would begin at XA00 hour local from ugn to pwk, pickup 2 passenger then continue round-trip to dal through the night. Upon returning, the crew was to wait 2 hours, fly to arrival and pick up 6 passenger. At XX00 we were to leave arrival to arrive at ase before duty times were exceeded. The day prior had been stressful (I had been doing administrative work since XX50 local) so when I advised the director of operations of this being less than safe, he proceeded to inform me of the future problems I may have with my employment. This is only 1 incident of many that takes place here. The company pilots, especially the director of operations, constantly perform administration duties (dispatch, training, etc) and then fly all day and night. They have no current poi and in the past 2 yrs they have had 2 major accidents. I've seen no improvement and no FAA intervention. I would just like to see these type of operators forced to follow regulations and operate safely. Note: each pilot does his administrative duties, as well as maintaining assignments on 3 different jet aircraft.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: LR35A CAPT INTIMIDATED TO TAKE AN ALL NIGHT PAX FLT WITHOUT ADEQUATE REST.

Narrative: THIS PROB IS A COMMON OCCURRENCE, HOWEVER SINCE I HAVE NO UNION REPRESENTATION I AM UNSURE OF ANY OTHER RPTING OPTIONS. ON THIS DAY XYZ (UGN) ATTEMPTED TO INTIMIDATE TO ME INTO FLYING A 135 TRIP FROM UGN-PWK-DAL-ARR-ASE OVER A PERIOD OF 14 HRS. THE FLT WOULD BEGIN AT XA00 HR LCL FROM UGN TO PWK, PICKUP 2 PAX THEN CONTINUE ROUND-TRIP TO DAL THROUGH THE NIGHT. UPON RETURNING, THE CREW WAS TO WAIT 2 HRS, FLY TO ARR AND PICK UP 6 PAX. AT XX00 WE WERE TO LEAVE ARR TO ARRIVE AT ASE BEFORE DUTY TIMES WERE EXCEEDED. THE DAY PRIOR HAD BEEN STRESSFUL (I HAD BEEN DOING ADMINISTRATIVE WORK SINCE XX50 LCL) SO WHEN I ADVISED THE DIRECTOR OF OPS OF THIS BEING LESS THAN SAFE, HE PROCEEDED TO INFORM ME OF THE FUTURE PROBS I MAY HAVE WITH MY EMPLOYMENT. THIS IS ONLY 1 INCIDENT OF MANY THAT TAKES PLACE HERE. THE COMPANY PLTS, ESPECIALLY THE DIRECTOR OF OPS, CONSTANTLY PERFORM ADMINISTRATION DUTIES (DISPATCH, TRAINING, ETC) AND THEN FLY ALL DAY AND NIGHT. THEY HAVE NO CURRENT POI AND IN THE PAST 2 YRS THEY HAVE HAD 2 MAJOR ACCIDENTS. I'VE SEEN NO IMPROVEMENT AND NO FAA INTERVENTION. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE THESE TYPE OF OPERATORS FORCED TO FOLLOW REGS AND OPERATE SAFELY. NOTE: EACH PLT DOES HIS ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES, AS WELL AS MAINTAINING ASSIGNMENTS ON 3 DIFFERENT JET ACFT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.