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Attributes | |
ACN | 352100 |
Time | |
Date | 199610 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : l45 |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5500 msl bound upper : 5500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sck |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | other other : other pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 4400 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 352100 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | other personnel other |
Qualification | other other : other |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 2000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
We were cruising southeast on a course that would take us directly over the byron airport. At 3 NM northwest, with the airport in sight (through a scattered layer 2000 ft below), the approach controller suggested a turn to pass either east or west of the airport because of an imminent skydiving drop. We altered course slightly to the south to pass west, which happened to be upwind of the airport. Moments later, we observed freefalling skydivers at 2 O'clock and 11 O'clock position and close range. We were given a frequency change moments after sighting the jumpers, and on this frequency the stockton approach controller was asking if the skydiving airplane had released its jumpers yet. Our evasive action after being told of the jump was obviously inadequate. We passed west of the airfield, but by only enough margin to find the skydivers. By the time we received the advisory we should have made a much larger turn to avoid the hazard, but given our proximity, the warning seemed very late. There was confusion between the controllers and jump aircraft as to what was happening, and the location of the sector boundary so close to the jump area prevents non participating airplanes from overhearing the activity as they approach from the northwest. Education is a definite solution. The aim offers little advice, but 3 NM minimum distance from parachute operations sounds like a good margin, also for people not to jump with aircraft below. We frequently hear jumping announcements on CTAF frequencys, but not often the estimated duration of the jump activity that the aim suggests be provided. More detailed information in the aim may lead to better pilot understanding of parachuting events and fewer close calls. I have since reviewed far 105. 105.25 also mentions duration of jump, radius of jump zone around target. These details should always be provided to non participants.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF A C172 OBSERVED SKYDIVERS FALLING APPROX 2000 FT AWAY FROM HIS ACFT AFTER BEING ADVISED BY ATC TO ALTER COURSE AROUND AN UNCTLED ARPT OVER WHICH PARACHUTE JUMPERS WERE GOING TO JUMP. PLT HAS GOOD SUGGESTION FOR DISSEMINATING PURPOSED SKYDIVING ACTIVITY.
Narrative: WE WERE CRUISING SE ON A COURSE THAT WOULD TAKE US DIRECTLY OVER THE BYRON ARPT. AT 3 NM NW, WITH THE ARPT IN SIGHT (THROUGH A SCATTERED LAYER 2000 FT BELOW), THE APCH CTLR SUGGESTED A TURN TO PASS EITHER E OR W OF THE ARPT BECAUSE OF AN IMMINENT SKYDIVING DROP. WE ALTERED COURSE SLIGHTLY TO THE S TO PASS W, WHICH HAPPENED TO BE UPWIND OF THE ARPT. MOMENTS LATER, WE OBSERVED FREEFALLING SKYDIVERS AT 2 O'CLOCK AND 11 O'CLOCK POS AND CLOSE RANGE. WE WERE GIVEN A FREQ CHANGE MOMENTS AFTER SIGHTING THE JUMPERS, AND ON THIS FREQ THE STOCKTON APCH CTLR WAS ASKING IF THE SKYDIVING AIRPLANE HAD RELEASED ITS JUMPERS YET. OUR EVASIVE ACTION AFTER BEING TOLD OF THE JUMP WAS OBVIOUSLY INADEQUATE. WE PASSED W OF THE AIRFIELD, BUT BY ONLY ENOUGH MARGIN TO FIND THE SKYDIVERS. BY THE TIME WE RECEIVED THE ADVISORY WE SHOULD HAVE MADE A MUCH LARGER TURN TO AVOID THE HAZARD, BUT GIVEN OUR PROX, THE WARNING SEEMED VERY LATE. THERE WAS CONFUSION BTWN THE CTLRS AND JUMP ACFT AS TO WHAT WAS HAPPENING, AND THE LOCATION OF THE SECTOR BOUNDARY SO CLOSE TO THE JUMP AREA PREVENTS NON PARTICIPATING AIRPLANES FROM OVERHEARING THE ACTIVITY AS THEY APCH FROM THE NW. EDUCATION IS A DEFINITE SOLUTION. THE AIM OFFERS LITTLE ADVICE, BUT 3 NM MINIMUM DISTANCE FROM PARACHUTE OPS SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD MARGIN, ALSO FOR PEOPLE NOT TO JUMP WITH ACFT BELOW. WE FREQUENTLY HEAR JUMPING ANNOUNCEMENTS ON CTAF FREQS, BUT NOT OFTEN THE ESTIMATED DURATION OF THE JUMP ACTIVITY THAT THE AIM SUGGESTS BE PROVIDED. MORE DETAILED INFO IN THE AIM MAY LEAD TO BETTER PLT UNDERSTANDING OF PARACHUTING EVENTS AND FEWER CLOSE CALLS. I HAVE SINCE REVIEWED FAR 105. 105.25 ALSO MENTIONS DURATION OF JUMP, RADIUS OF JUMP ZONE AROUND TARGET. THESE DETAILS SHOULD ALWAYS BE PROVIDED TO NON PARTICIPANTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.