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Large transport overshot back course then left assigned altitude early. First officer flying was new to the airplane.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 353930 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199611 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : rno |
| State Reference | NV |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 8500 msl bound upper : 9000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : rno |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 16000 flight time type : 3500 |
| ASRS Report | 353930 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The first officer was flying the leg to rno. When we were cleared for approach to runway 34L back course ILS, we had about a 30 degree intercept heading and were previously given a speed of 210 KTS. As we were cleared for the approach I was changing my radio to match the ILS back course when I noticed we had flown through the localizer, and told the first officer to turn back to intercept. He was on autoplt and was slow to turn, so I took the plane and banked about 30 degrees to reintercept and gave it back to the first officer. Approach called referencing our overshoot, and while I was talking to approach I noticed the first officer was descending below 8500 ft. Approach called again repeating the clearance to maintain 9000 ft until established on the localizer. About the time I was responding we were reintercepting the localizer and I told approach we were established and continued approach and landing. I found out on the ground the first officer was very new on this plane and had put the inbound course on the back course which caused overshoot problem. He also did not start slowing soon enough as we were cleared for approach. We had a long day and both were very tired. I should have crosschecked his radios sooner to verify they were correct. Also, I should have kept the plane once I first took over, which would have kept us from leaving 9000 ft until re-established on the localizer. The first officer should have told me he was new on this plane.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LGT OVERSHOT BACK COURSE THEN LEFT ASSIGNED ALT EARLY. FO FLYING WAS NEW TO THE AIRPLANE.
Narrative: THE FO WAS FLYING THE LEG TO RNO. WHEN WE WERE CLRED FOR APCH TO RWY 34L BACK COURSE ILS, WE HAD ABOUT A 30 DEG INTERCEPT HDG AND WERE PREVIOUSLY GIVEN A SPD OF 210 KTS. AS WE WERE CLRED FOR THE APCH I WAS CHANGING MY RADIO TO MATCH THE ILS BACK COURSE WHEN I NOTICED WE HAD FLOWN THROUGH THE LOC, AND TOLD THE FO TO TURN BACK TO INTERCEPT. HE WAS ON AUTOPLT AND WAS SLOW TO TURN, SO I TOOK THE PLANE AND BANKED ABOUT 30 DEGS TO REINTERCEPT AND GAVE IT BACK TO THE FO. APCH CALLED REFING OUR OVERSHOOT, AND WHILE I WAS TALKING TO APCH I NOTICED THE FO WAS DSNDING BELOW 8500 FT. APCH CALLED AGAIN REPEATING THE CLRNC TO MAINTAIN 9000 FT UNTIL ESTABLISHED ON THE LOC. ABOUT THE TIME I WAS RESPONDING WE WERE REINTERCEPTING THE LOC AND I TOLD APCH WE WERE ESTABLISHED AND CONTINUED APCH AND LNDG. I FOUND OUT ON THE GND THE FO WAS VERY NEW ON THIS PLANE AND HAD PUT THE INBOUND COURSE ON THE BACK COURSE WHICH CAUSED OVERSHOOT PROB. HE ALSO DID NOT START SLOWING SOON ENOUGH AS WE WERE CLRED FOR APCH. WE HAD A LONG DAY AND BOTH WERE VERY TIRED. I SHOULD HAVE XCHKED HIS RADIOS SOONER TO VERIFY THEY WERE CORRECT. ALSO, I SHOULD HAVE KEPT THE PLANE ONCE I FIRST TOOK OVER, WHICH WOULD HAVE KEPT US FROM LEAVING 9000 FT UNTIL RE-ESTABLISHED ON THE LOC. THE FO SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME HE WAS NEW ON THIS PLANE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.