<< >> NASA ASRS Report 353929, November 1996

DC8 freighter does not fly SID because the flight crew did not notice that the SID was printed on 2 pages, one on the initial climb out procedure and the other on the SID.

Attributes
ACN	353929
Time
Date	199611
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : mad
State Reference	FO
Altitude	msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : mad
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	DC-8 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	departure other departure sid : sid
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 2400
ASRS Report	353929
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation
Situations
Airport	procedure or policy : unspecified

Narrative:

Language barriers notwithstanding, we received and read back our clearance to ebbr. This being acknowledged by clearance delivery as correct, we proceeded to the runway for takeoff. While flying the small aircraft 1B (runway 15) SID, departure control queried us as to whether we were flying the published routing. Upon immediate intense scrutiny of the SID and our position we unanimously agreed that yes indeed we were flying the SID as published. No further dialogue ensued with departure control. We were then handed off to en route frequencys. Bemused as to departure control's concern, further investigation revealed that all departures out of lemd utilize not one but 2 pages of departure instructions. An 'initial climb out' procedure plus the assigned SID must be flown to properly depart the lemd airspace. The problem as I see it is that nowhere on any assigned SID(south) does it even remotely mention that an additional profile needs to be flown, hence the questioning by departure control.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: DC8 FREIGHTER DOES NOT FLY SID BECAUSE THE FLC DID NOT NOTICE THAT THE SID WAS PRINTED ON 2 PAGES, ONE ON THE INITIAL CLB OUT PROC AND THE OTHER ON THE SID.

Narrative: LANGUAGE BARRIERS NOTWITHSTANDING, WE RECEIVED AND READ BACK OUR CLRNC TO EBBR. THIS BEING ACKNOWLEDGED BY CLRNC DELIVERY AS CORRECT, WE PROCEEDED TO THE RWY FOR TKOF. WHILE FLYING THE SMA 1B (RWY 15) SID, DEP CTL QUERIED US AS TO WHETHER WE WERE FLYING THE PUBLISHED ROUTING. UPON IMMEDIATE INTENSE SCRUTINY OF THE SID AND OUR POS WE UNANIMOUSLY AGREED THAT YES INDEED WE WERE FLYING THE SID AS PUBLISHED. NO FURTHER DIALOGUE ENSUED WITH DEP CTL. WE WERE THEN HANDED OFF TO ENRTE FREQS. BEMUSED AS TO DEP CTL'S CONCERN, FURTHER INVESTIGATION REVEALED THAT ALL DEPS OUT OF LEMD UTILIZE NOT ONE BUT 2 PAGES OF DEP INSTRUCTIONS. AN 'INITIAL CLB OUT' PROC PLUS THE ASSIGNED SID MUST BE FLOWN TO PROPERLY DEPART THE LEMD AIRSPACE. THE PROB AS I SEE IT IS THAT NOWHERE ON ANY ASSIGNED SID(S) DOES IT EVEN REMOTELY MENTION THAT AN ADDITIONAL PROFILE NEEDS TO BE FLOWN, HENCE THE QUESTIONING BY DEP CTL.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.