<< >> NASA ASRS Report 353950, November 1996

Departure controller gives B757 a vector to a route not coordinated with ZID causing the ARTCC controller some concern.

Attributes
ACN	353950
Time
Date	199611
Day	Sat
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : iiu airport : sdf
State Reference	KY
Altitude	msl bound lower : 20000 msl bound upper : 20000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dawn
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	artcc : zid tracon : sdf
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	climbout : intermediate altitude
Route In Use	enroute : on vectors enroute airway : zid
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 1500
ASRS Report	353950
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 500
ASRS Report	354130
Events
Anomaly	non adherence other other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Inter Facility Coordination Failure

Narrative:

Our filed clearance was sdu -- iiu, J99 vxv, etc. The pre departure clearance was sdu -- iiu, J99, etc. After takeoff, departure assigned us heading 140 degrees to intercept J99 vxv and we did just that. We changed over to ZID and after approximately 10 mins ATC asked us where we were going. He said we should be 'V-4 hyk' which is the normal routing. But we were filed J99 vxv. There seems to me that there was no coordination between sdf departure and ZID.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: DEP CTLR GIVES B757 A VECTOR TO A RTE NOT COORDINATED WITH ZID CAUSING THE ARTCC CTLR SOME CONCERN.

Narrative: OUR FILED CLRNC WAS SDU -- IIU, J99 VXV, ETC. THE PDC WAS SDU -- IIU, J99, ETC. AFTER TKOF, DEP ASSIGNED US HDG 140 DEGS TO INTERCEPT J99 VXV AND WE DID JUST THAT. WE CHANGED OVER TO ZID AND AFTER APPROX 10 MINS ATC ASKED US WHERE WE WERE GOING. HE SAID WE SHOULD BE 'V-4 HYK' WHICH IS THE NORMAL ROUTING. BUT WE WERE FILED J99 VXV. THERE SEEMS TO ME THAT THERE WAS NO COORD BTWN SDF DEP AND ZID.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.