Narrative:

Taxiing from our gate to runway 28L. We received clearance to taxi to runway 28L. As we approached the runway, tower told us we were well beyond the hold short line. (We were on runway 23, which was closed.) in the darkness none of us had seen the hold short lines, which were on taxiway D. In the process of doing our checklist and preparing for takeoff the hold short lines were not very obvious to us especially at night. It might be a good idea to have the hold short lines lit up to help make aware of their location. ATC said it happens quite regularly. Supplemental information from acn 354082: the tower informed us that we had passed the line and he had landing traffic 5 mi out. Tower asked us if we were ready and we were cleared for takeoff. I called the tower supervisor after reaching our destination and he informed me that this (passing hold short line) occurs every couple of weeks. He also stated that I should pass this along to the port of cmh or our company to improve the lighting situation. It is quite dark on the east end of taxiway D and difficult to find your way. A stop bar or light should be added to improve nighttime operations. The first officer and I were looking quite hard for the stop line and were surprised that we had crossed it. We actually stopped on runway 23 which was not lighted. I believe the hold short markings are an angular line. I simply should have stopped at the runway 28L red light. I think some improvements could be made in signage or lighting at cmh. Cmh has had taxiway changes in this area within the past yr. Callback conversation with reporter of acn 354085 revealed the following information: the reporter said that all 3 members of this B727-200 flight crew were looking for the hold line when they crossed it. He said that the lighting is bad and the line is at an angle to the taxiway and this is a very wide area with several taxi lines running toward runway 23 and runway 28L. The flight crew ended up on runway 23.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: AN ACR FLC CROSSED THE RWY 23-28L HOLD LINE WITHOUT A CLRNC. THE FLC COMPLAINED OF POOR LIGHTING AND MARKING IN THIS AREA. B727-200.

Narrative: TAXIING FROM OUR GATE TO RWY 28L. WE RECEIVED CLRNC TO TAXI TO RWY 28L. AS WE APCHED THE RWY, TWR TOLD US WE WERE WELL BEYOND THE HOLD SHORT LINE. (WE WERE ON RWY 23, WHICH WAS CLOSED.) IN THE DARKNESS NONE OF US HAD SEEN THE HOLD SHORT LINES, WHICH WERE ON TXWY D. IN THE PROCESS OF DOING OUR CHKLIST AND PREPARING FOR TKOF THE HOLD SHORT LINES WERE NOT VERY OBVIOUS TO US ESPECIALLY AT NIGHT. IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THE HOLD SHORT LINES LIT UP TO HELP MAKE AWARE OF THEIR LOCATION. ATC SAID IT HAPPENS QUITE REGULARLY. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 354082: THE TWR INFORMED US THAT WE HAD PASSED THE LINE AND HE HAD LNDG TFC 5 MI OUT. TWR ASKED US IF WE WERE READY AND WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF. I CALLED THE TWR SUPVR AFTER REACHING OUR DEST AND HE INFORMED ME THAT THIS (PASSING HOLD SHORT LINE) OCCURS EVERY COUPLE OF WKS. HE ALSO STATED THAT I SHOULD PASS THIS ALONG TO THE PORT OF CMH OR OUR COMPANY TO IMPROVE THE LIGHTING SIT. IT IS QUITE DARK ON THE E END OF TXWY D AND DIFFICULT TO FIND YOUR WAY. A STOP BAR OR LIGHT SHOULD BE ADDED TO IMPROVE NIGHTTIME OPS. THE FO AND I WERE LOOKING QUITE HARD FOR THE STOP LINE AND WERE SURPRISED THAT WE HAD CROSSED IT. WE ACTUALLY STOPPED ON RWY 23 WHICH WAS NOT LIGHTED. I BELIEVE THE HOLD SHORT MARKINGS ARE AN ANGULAR LINE. I SIMPLY SHOULD HAVE STOPPED AT THE RWY 28L RED LIGHT. I THINK SOME IMPROVEMENTS COULD BE MADE IN SIGNAGE OR LIGHTING AT CMH. CMH HAS HAD TXWY CHANGES IN THIS AREA WITHIN THE PAST YR. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR OF ACN 354085 REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR SAID THAT ALL 3 MEMBERS OF THIS B727-200 FLC WERE LOOKING FOR THE HOLD LINE WHEN THEY CROSSED IT. HE SAID THAT THE LIGHTING IS BAD AND THE LINE IS AT AN ANGLE TO THE TXWY AND THIS IS A VERY WIDE AREA WITH SEVERAL TAXI LINES RUNNING TOWARD RWY 23 AND RWY 28L. THE FLC ENDED UP ON RWY 23.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.