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Attributes | |
ACN | 354619 |
Time | |
Date | 199612 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : oak |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3500 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : oak |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | arrival star : star enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 354619 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited adverse environment |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I was PF on radar vectors to an ILS runway 29 at oak. During radar vectored descent off madwin 3 arrival from 7000 ft, flight was instructed to slow to 180 KTS, then 160 KTS with several heading changes toward the airport and with clearance to intercept the localizer. While instructed to slow to 160 KTS a heading issued was 260 degrees (localizer is 294 degrees) and altitude assigned 3200 ft MSL. Localizer frequency was tuned and idented on both sides with flight director in heading mode but armed for localizer capture. As the aircraft passed below 4000 ft, I applied thrust and reduced descent rate to approximately 700 FPM. At 3500 ft, the GPWS sounded a single 'terrain' alert, followed by a 'pull up' warning. The first officer radar altimeter indicated 1600-1800 ft absolute. The captain and I aggressively initiated an escape maneuver. All alerts cleared at approximately 4000 ft MSL. ATC was advised of our event, and we were assured that 3200 ft was the correct MVA. Aside from possible out of tolerance equipment, I believe the aircraft was northwest of where the controller expected the flight to track from his headings due to a southerly wind factor (surface report 180/08). Raw data GS indications led me to expect localizer capture above GS. It should be noted that this aircraft and crew were in CAT 3A status. ATC might wish to reconsider their MVA sectors vs GPWS thresholds and traffic flows/spacing policy.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727-200 ON MADWIN 3 STAR OAK IS PUT ON VECTOR AND DSCNT SLOW TO 160 KTS ON 260 DEG HDG, MAINTAIN 3200 FT. REDUCED DSCNT RATE TO 700 FPM. AT 3500 FT, GPWS SOUNDED. IMMEDIATE CLB WAS INITIATED AND WARNING STOPPED AT 4000 FT. WAS EXPECTING TO INTERCEPT THE GS ABOVE. FLC HAD PREPARED FOR CAT III APCH. CTLR ASSURED FLC 3200 FT WAS THE MVA IN THEIR AREA.
Narrative: I WAS PF ON RADAR VECTORS TO AN ILS RWY 29 AT OAK. DURING RADAR VECTORED DSCNT OFF MADWIN 3 ARR FROM 7000 FT, FLT WAS INSTRUCTED TO SLOW TO 180 KTS, THEN 160 KTS WITH SEVERAL HDG CHANGES TOWARD THE ARPT AND WITH CLRNC TO INTERCEPT THE LOC. WHILE INSTRUCTED TO SLOW TO 160 KTS A HDG ISSUED WAS 260 DEGS (LOC IS 294 DEGS) AND ALT ASSIGNED 3200 FT MSL. LOC FREQ WAS TUNED AND IDENTED ON BOTH SIDES WITH FLT DIRECTOR IN HDG MODE BUT ARMED FOR LOC CAPTURE. AS THE ACFT PASSED BELOW 4000 FT, I APPLIED THRUST AND REDUCED DSCNT RATE TO APPROX 700 FPM. AT 3500 FT, THE GPWS SOUNDED A SINGLE 'TERRAIN' ALERT, FOLLOWED BY A 'PULL UP' WARNING. THE FO RADAR ALTIMETER INDICATED 1600-1800 FT ABSOLUTE. THE CAPT AND I AGGRESSIVELY INITIATED AN ESCAPE MANEUVER. ALL ALERTS CLRED AT APPROX 4000 FT MSL. ATC WAS ADVISED OF OUR EVENT, AND WE WERE ASSURED THAT 3200 FT WAS THE CORRECT MVA. ASIDE FROM POSSIBLE OUT OF TOLERANCE EQUIP, I BELIEVE THE ACFT WAS NW OF WHERE THE CTLR EXPECTED THE FLT TO TRACK FROM HIS HDGS DUE TO A SOUTHERLY WIND FACTOR (SURFACE RPT 180/08). RAW DATA GS INDICATIONS LED ME TO EXPECT LOC CAPTURE ABOVE GS. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THIS ACFT AND CREW WERE IN CAT 3A STATUS. ATC MIGHT WISH TO RECONSIDER THEIR MVA SECTORS VS GPWS THRESHOLDS AND TFC FLOWS/SPACING POLICY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.