A LR35 aircraft departing runway 1 at teb delays rotation until a helicopter crossing the runway is clear. The pilot claims this type of conflict is common at teb.

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Attributes
ACN	354618
Time
Date	199612
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : teb
State Reference	NJ
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dawn
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air taxi
Make Model Name	Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 135
Flight Phase	climbout : takeoff
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Helicopter
Operating Under FAR Part	other : unknown
Flight Phase	landing other
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 325 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 4300
ASRS Report	354618
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : instrument
Events
Anomaly	conflict : ground less severe other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 500 vertical : 75
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other
Situations
ATC Facility	procedure or policy : unspecified

Narrative:

Our flight was cleared for takeoff on runway 1 in teb. Tower also cleared a helicopter to overfly runway 1 and land on the ramp. This situation was highly hazardous for it put the landing helicopter overflying a departing jet. The extent of evasive action that we were able to take was my having the first officer, PF, delay the takeoff until the helicopter was clear. This type of conflict is common in teb.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A LR35 ACFT DEPARTING RWY 1 AT TEB DELAYS ROTATION UNTIL A HELI XING THE RWY IS CLR. THE PLT CLAIMS THIS TYPE OF CONFLICT IS COMMON AT TEB.

Narrative: OUR FLT WAS CLRED FOR TKOF ON RWY 1 IN TEB. TWR ALSO CLRED A HELI TO OVERFLY RWY 1 AND LAND ON THE RAMP. THIS SIT WAS HIGHLY HAZARDOUS FOR IT PUT THE LNDG HELI OVERFLYING A DEPARTING JET. THE EXTENT OF EVASIVE ACTION THAT WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE WAS MY HAVING THE FO, PF, DELAY THE TKOF UNTIL THE HELI WAS CLR. THIS TYPE OF CONFLICT IS COMMON IN TEB.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.