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Flight crew of an large transport on final descended in response to a TCASII RA and then made a 360 degree turn while on final after observing the other aircraft too close to follow on a visual approach. The other aircraft had cut its flight path short after canceling IFR and going visual.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 355685 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199612 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : aoj |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : aoj |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : second officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 355685 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 2000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On final approach runway 24 ILS, air carrier Y system A300 descended through a cloud deck in a right turn, appearing to be intercepting the ILS. We had heard him cancel IFR out of 9700 ft. We had flown the full approach and he was behind us until he apparently cut his procedure turn short and descended through a cloud deck VFR. We received an RA on our TCASII and descended to 3000 ft in VMC keeping air carrier Y in sight. We decided to do a right 360 degree turn for spacing since he appeared to be continuing his approach. We tried to talk to air carrier Y on VHF but his english was not good enough to understand us. While we maneuvered for spacing, he apparently decided to go around. I feel this incident occurred due to air carrier Y canceling IFR and then descending through clouds VFR. He also did not fly the full teardrop procedure turn depicted on the approach chart.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF AN LGT ON FINAL DSNDED IN RESPONSE TO A TCASII RA AND THEN MADE A 360 DEG TURN WHILE ON FINAL AFTER OBSERVING THE OTHER ACFT TOO CLOSE TO FOLLOW ON A VISUAL APCH. THE OTHER ACFT HAD CUT ITS FLT PATH SHORT AFTER CANCELING IFR AND GOING VISUAL.
Narrative: ON FINAL APCH RWY 24 ILS, ACR Y SYS A300 DSNDED THROUGH A CLOUD DECK IN A R TURN, APPEARING TO BE INTERCEPTING THE ILS. WE HAD HEARD HIM CANCEL IFR OUT OF 9700 FT. WE HAD FLOWN THE FULL APCH AND HE WAS BEHIND US UNTIL HE APPARENTLY CUT HIS PROC TURN SHORT AND DSNDED THROUGH A CLOUD DECK VFR. WE RECEIVED AN RA ON OUR TCASII AND DSNDED TO 3000 FT IN VMC KEEPING ACR Y IN SIGHT. WE DECIDED TO DO A R 360 DEG TURN FOR SPACING SINCE HE APPEARED TO BE CONTINUING HIS APCH. WE TRIED TO TALK TO ACR Y ON VHF BUT HIS ENGLISH WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND US. WHILE WE MANEUVERED FOR SPACING, HE APPARENTLY DECIDED TO GAR. I FEEL THIS INCIDENT OCCURRED DUE TO ACR Y CANCELING IFR AND THEN DSNDING THROUGH CLOUDS VFR. HE ALSO DID NOT FLY THE FULL TEARDROP PROC TURN DEPICTED ON THE APCH CHART.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.