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PA28 returning VFR pvd-bdr communication with N90. Lowering ceiling forced descent from 2800 ft to 2500 ft in vicinity of hvn class D airspace. Possible penetration without communication with tower.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 355820 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199612 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : hvn |
| State Reference | CT |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 2500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 tower : hvn tower : bos |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 30 flight time total : 2000 flight time type : 1450 |
| ASRS Report | 355820 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Returning VFR from pvd to bdr and working ny approach from mad to bdr, at approximately 2800 ft started a descent after hvn for bdr. About 4 mi west of hvn due to lowering clouds, we descended to 2500 ft or slightly below to stay clear of clouds and may have been in hvn airspace. Problem would not have occurred if we had talked with hvn tower on transition to bdr and asked permission to transit at or below 2500 ft to bdr.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA28 RETURNING VFR PVD-BDR COM WITH N90. LOWERING CEILING FORCED DSCNT FROM 2800 FT TO 2500 FT IN VICINITY OF HVN CLASS D AIRSPACE. POSSIBLE PENETRATION WITHOUT COM WITH TWR.
Narrative: RETURNING VFR FROM PVD TO BDR AND WORKING NY APCH FROM MAD TO BDR, AT APPROX 2800 FT STARTED A DSCNT AFTER HVN FOR BDR. ABOUT 4 MI W OF HVN DUE TO LOWERING CLOUDS, WE DSNDED TO 2500 FT OR SLIGHTLY BELOW TO STAY CLR OF CLOUDS AND MAY HAVE BEEN IN HVN AIRSPACE. PROB WOULD NOT HAVE OCCURRED IF WE HAD TALKED WITH HVN TWR ON TRANSITION TO BDR AND ASKED PERMISSION TO TRANSIT AT OR BELOW 2500 FT TO BDR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.