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Attributes | |
ACN | 356339 |
Time | |
Date | 199612 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sdf |
State Reference | KY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : atl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-88 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 356339 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Pushed back from gate with 'no passenger or cargo tolerance' weight and balance paperwork. Just prior to release from tug, were advised that '15 bags are being added.' asked our company via radio if bags were accounted for on paperwork. Reply came back only 2 bags put on. When I repeated 'no weight tolerance,' all of a sudden 'it was a new guy who tried to put atl bound bags on cvg flight, so no bags were put on' or 'bags were put on and then taken off.' first, no reason for zero tolerance on flight with light and long runways. Second, who knows what really went on?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD88 ON PUSH BACK ADVISED 15 BAGS BEING ADDED. HAD NOT RECEIVED WT AND BAL FORM. CHKED WITH COMPANY AND ADVISED 2 BAGS ADDED BUT THEN ADVISED BAGS FOR AN ATL FLT WERE BEING PUT ON THEN TAKEN OFF. TOTAL CONFUSION.
Narrative: PUSHED BACK FROM GATE WITH 'NO PAX OR CARGO TOLERANCE' WT AND BAL PAPERWORK. JUST PRIOR TO RELEASE FROM TUG, WERE ADVISED THAT '15 BAGS ARE BEING ADDED.' ASKED OUR COMPANY VIA RADIO IF BAGS WERE ACCOUNTED FOR ON PAPERWORK. REPLY CAME BACK ONLY 2 BAGS PUT ON. WHEN I REPEATED 'NO WT TOLERANCE,' ALL OF A SUDDEN 'IT WAS A NEW GUY WHO TRIED TO PUT ATL BOUND BAGS ON CVG FLT, SO NO BAGS WERE PUT ON' OR 'BAGS WERE PUT ON AND THEN TAKEN OFF.' FIRST, NO REASON FOR ZERO TOLERANCE ON FLT WITH LIGHT AND LONG RWYS. SECOND, WHO KNOWS WHAT REALLY WENT ON?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.