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Attributes | |
ACN | 356678 |
Time | |
Date | 199612 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2700 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other other |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 356678 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
ASRS Report | 356677 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
When gear was retracted on takeoff, the red nosegear light remained illuminated with accompanying increased wind noise. The appropriate checklist was accomplished, but did not resolve the problem. I elected to return to lax and did so without further incident. The landing was made with a soft touchdown. The initial problem occurred at an extremely busy time, ie, revised initial altitude -- frequency change, crossing a fix that requires a turn, normal cleanup, etc, and now an abnormal with a lot of additional noise. During all of this, I had decided to leave the slats extended in order to keep the speed down. In communicating my intent, either I wasn't clear or the first officer misunderstood and the slats were in fact retracted. Not realizing this, when I attempted to level off, the aircraft was not responding at all as I was anticipating. This resulted in some minor altdevs. Probably not enough to ring the bell with ATC, but to get an alert in the cockpit. Supplemental information from acn 356677: ATC frequency: 134.35. ATC facility: socal departure. Location: 8 NM west of lax. While cleaning up the airplane and preparing to read the checklist, I understood the captain to ask for slats retract and did so. About 20 seconds later, while level at 3000 ft, our altitude deviated about 300 ft below our assigned altitude.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: S80 NOSEGEAR FAILS TO RETRACT AFTER TKOF. MISCOM IN THE COCKPIT RESULTS IN CONFUSION AS TO ACFT CONFIGN AND AN ALTDEV ALT EXCURSION OCCURS.
Narrative: WHEN GEAR WAS RETRACTED ON TKOF, THE RED NOSEGEAR LIGHT REMAINED ILLUMINATED WITH ACCOMPANYING INCREASED WIND NOISE. THE APPROPRIATE CHKLIST WAS ACCOMPLISHED, BUT DID NOT RESOLVE THE PROB. I ELECTED TO RETURN TO LAX AND DID SO WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. THE LNDG WAS MADE WITH A SOFT TOUCHDOWN. THE INITIAL PROB OCCURRED AT AN EXTREMELY BUSY TIME, IE, REVISED INITIAL ALT -- FREQ CHANGE, XING A FIX THAT REQUIRES A TURN, NORMAL CLEANUP, ETC, AND NOW AN ABNORMAL WITH A LOT OF ADDITIONAL NOISE. DURING ALL OF THIS, I HAD DECIDED TO LEAVE THE SLATS EXTENDED IN ORDER TO KEEP THE SPD DOWN. IN COMMUNICATING MY INTENT, EITHER I WASN'T CLR OR THE FO MISUNDERSTOOD AND THE SLATS WERE IN FACT RETRACTED. NOT REALIZING THIS, WHEN I ATTEMPTED TO LEVEL OFF, THE ACFT WAS NOT RESPONDING AT ALL AS I WAS ANTICIPATING. THIS RESULTED IN SOME MINOR ALTDEVS. PROBABLY NOT ENOUGH TO RING THE BELL WITH ATC, BUT TO GET AN ALERT IN THE COCKPIT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 356677: ATC FREQ: 134.35. ATC FACILITY: SOCAL DEP. LOCATION: 8 NM W OF LAX. WHILE CLEANING UP THE AIRPLANE AND PREPARING TO READ THE CHKLIST, I UNDERSTOOD THE CAPT TO ASK FOR SLATS RETRACT AND DID SO. ABOUT 20 SECONDS LATER, WHILE LEVEL AT 3000 FT, OUR ALT DEVIATED ABOUT 300 FT BELOW OUR ASSIGNED ALT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.